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I ruffled a few feathers a month or so ago, suggesting precious metals were in for a serious decline in the second half of 2011.

That was when silver was still hovering at $40 and everyone was in awe at how well it was holding up, and laughing at me for even suggesting silver could ever go below $30 again

Deflation's back...ladies and gentlemen...and its staying for a while...

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09/27/2011 12:58 pm
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Was at a local coin store yesterday.

I was busy buying Vicky large cent varieties, picking off six 1893 double punched 9s (including one quad punched 9), two 1899 repunched 9s, a 1881H micro D in VF, two 1881H doubling around the clock - different types, two 1890 repunched Is, a 1891 die chip C in CENT, 1882N repunched N, and a few more. All for $8 each. Store owner even gave me a 30% discount.

Everyone else was too busy buying/selling silver and gold bullion. One fella, who bought 10 oz of silver looked at one of the Vickies and asked "what's an obverse" ?

What better sign to do the opposite of what everyone else is doing?

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09/27/2011 1:11 pm
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 Posted 09/27/2011  1:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Danester to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I know what an "Obverse" is, and I know what a " US Large Cent" is. But what the heck is a "Vicky Large Cent"?
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 Posted 09/27/2011  1:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Danester to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
OK, I see you are a Canuck..... a Vicky Large Cent must be a Canadian Large Cent - Never Mind
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I assume from the context it has something to do with the late great queen Victoria.
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 Posted 09/27/2011  1:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mmerlinn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I ruffled a few feathers a month or so ago, suggesting precious metals were in for a serious decline in the second half of 2011.


Welcome to the Ruffled Feathers Club. I have been ruffling feathers for decades, and usually end up on the correct side of things.

When everyone is buying, it is time to sell. And I did manage to sell some of my silver just before the "crash" from the $50 area.

Even though silver is down a lot, we have not seen a silver crash yet. A crash is where everyone is trying to liquidate AT ANY COST. That has not happened yet. And I don't think this downswing will be over until we have seen that crash.
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To those that called it right, good call. I was blinded by the fever, drunk in euphoria. But, I live to play another day.
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mmerlinn,

I've read quite a few of your post on various thread and I can see/understand your view. Here are some of my thought: The crash of paper PM (silver in particular) will probably come (according to my understanding of your post), which would bring down the SPOT PRICE. However, in reality, at such crash where/how can people like us acquire the physical silver. My personal experience reflected this: At the crash of 2008 when silver falling from around $20/oz to sub $10/oz, all selling activities were virtually HALTED (Southern California & even online) . Not until silver climb up to about $12, did I see some selling.... but the premium was high (even for 90% junk silver).

Even yesterday, I've checked local craigslist and some online dealers.... there are not much selling, the supplies of low premium silvers are running low (even APMEX is running out of stock on some of the product that cost $0.50 plus SPOT per OZ).

What I am trying to share is even if the crash is coming, the challenge of acquiring physical silver (PM in general) is not simple and also costly (dealer tend to increase the premium as spot price falling - it make sense business wise).

Utilize the crash to play paper PM is great but unless we have a long (at least a few months) price slump, which seemed unlikely, not many physical PM buyers can take advantage of the price drop. There are simply no supplies available at the dip.

Anyways, I hope your prediction of the crash come in late October will be corrected. We have to wait and see.
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09/27/2011 3:04 pm
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Glad I'm OUT!
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Wow Danlos, you are like Nostradamus needless to say....

Can you predict whether or not a coin will land on heads or tails as well?
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09/27/2011 3:34 pm
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Actually...I posted a nice technical analysis summary of the precious metals market a month or so ago, when the EMA20 (Exponential moving day average) was crossing down over the SMA50 on all metals except gold...

The signs of the crash were broadcast months ago...and yes, this is nowhere near the bottom...but a drop from $50 (and for bullion buyers its more like $58), to $25 is very significant, in a short time frame :)...

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 Posted 09/27/2011  4:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silverhawk74 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am just razzing you, as I posted a thread giving Merlin credit for the same prediction, lol....

Now then, did you predict it would gain almost 8 bucks back to almost 33 by today, which tells me this aint 1980, and people are buying left an right, instead of being lead by fear and selling at the first signs of a bad swing....

It may pull back some more when it gets back up to the areas where the wise DO NOT like to buy up at 40 plus and 1700 plus around Christmas time, when everyone is busy buying little Timmy the new G.I.Joe with the kung fu grip, to steal a phrase from Eddy Murphy in trading places, lol. But as we all know if the early part of this year is an indication, it is gonna start a nice climb in January, and probably will not pull back till early summer.....

And if Stansberry's prediction and timeline turns out to be close to right closing in on late 2011, maybe it will not go back down at all in the summer....
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09/27/2011 4:37 pm
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You are a soothsayer.
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 Posted 09/27/2011  5:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mmerlinn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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One fella, who bought 10 oz of silver looked at one of the Vickies and asked "what's an obverse" ?


Maybe you should have asked him what a "Reverse" was.
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pure silver or numismatics, to each their own. I can't complain because I've made some good sales of pure silver coins to buyers that were looking for the "younger queen on the heads side and a maple leaf on the tails side"
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Fair enough but with so many people talking about it they had to get it right one time.

So it is 50/50 give me your price at the end of November. Close to $20 or close to $40?

I still do not see a crash it is still over the price point it was at a year ago. I can still hear people telling me wow it is above $24 I have never seen that.

As a very long time buyer I have hardly noticed the small drop in price, though I know there was a large crowd to jump on the band wagon this past year so they may see things differently. Now it gets back to the $8 range I may not be so pleasant with my views.
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