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Pillar of the Community
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And who says coin collectors don't gamble?
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Pillar of the Community
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People never cease to amaze me. Now if the enterprising person were to think of such things, putting 1 error coin in a roll would net HUGE returns. Sounds like another good reason to own a wrapping machine  |
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ND--why do you say that someone put it in there?
I could see how that someone would get a H/T roll and it could have a error (if I can call it that) on one end...
I have bank rolls that look just like that so it could have been a un-open bank roll.
Speedy
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Originally posted by Speedy
ND--why do you say that someone put it in there?
I could see how that someone would get a H/T roll and it could have a error (if I can call it that) on one end...
I have bank rolls that look just like that so it could have been a un-open bank roll.
Speedy
Speedy, I think the point is that one doesn't know. It certainly could be an unopened heads/tails bank roll. It could just as easily be an opened inspected roll with a wisc error placed in the end. The auction doesn't give info on the roll- nowhere does it even say "unopened" . The seller could have opened and resealed the other end, esaily, since the photo only shows the end" error" coin. To further "poison the well", this seller has hidden their feedback (feedback is private- for all we know, his recent neg states "sold roll of P mint Wisconsin quarters with end coin D mint error"). Not only is there nothing preventing the seller from doing just that, there isn't even anything in the listing which says otherwise. I would run form this seller as fast as possible! Bag any Toms? How are your walkers? Glad to see you around here- we've missed you while you're moderating other boards! Don |
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Rest in Peace
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Let's be realistic. The bait here is clear, and more than likely just that. If the seller thought there was even a slim chance that the roll was all errors he would have been many dollars ahead selling them seperately! Remember, if it looks to good to be true...... Mike  |
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Originally posted by Mike
Let's be realistic. The bait here is clear, and more than likely just that. If the seller thought there was even a slim chance that the roll was all errors he would have been many dollars ahead selling them seperately! Remember, if it looks to good to be true...... Mike
It's a rainy day here SF. I note that because this auction is depressing! Depressing because it is misleading, and depressing because someone is naive enough to bid more than the "value" of one Wisconsin leaf error for this roll (plus 9.75 for the non error wisc quaters, of course...) Mike, you hit the nail on the head. If the seller thought there were more error quarters in there, he'd have opened the roll (as he may well have done). This isn't a charity auction...and as I tell my almost three year old, Santa doesn't come for several months...despite the christmas lights in that store window we pass... |
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Originally posted by Speedy
ND--why do you say that someone put it in there?
I could see how that someone would get a H/T roll and it could have a error (if I can call it that) on one end...
I have bank rolls that look just like that so it could have been a un-open bank roll.Speedy
First, you should READ what I wrote. I did NOT say it WAS, I said that it could easily be done. I have a wrapping machine and plenty of empty N.F. String and son wrappers. I am positive that I am not the only person who owns this type of machine. My point is, that anyone can wrap coins. So if someone was to buy an error Wisconsin for $150 and wrap it in a roll and receive over $500 for it, it doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure out the posibilities. |
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ND
I didn't mean you had said...I just wondered why you thought it might have been...
Hey SFDukie
I'm not planing to bid on these...in fact I don't even call them errors...
What I was wondering about was that I have opened many rolls like that is I have found no way to re-seal them.
I never did know (I guess it comes from being way out in the country) that people other than banks have rollers like that.
Nope haven't gotten another bird...the season ends tomorrow.
Walkers are slower right now as I try to get the last 6 (+/-) Wheat cents I need to complete that set.
Speedy
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05/04/2005 8:27 pm
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Sorry Speedy, I did not intend for that too sound that harsh. My point is that anyone can make "bank" wrapped rolls. You have to take into consideration that there are far more dishonest people than honest people. Numismatics is full of people looking to take advantage of the "person" who is not aware of the ins and outs.
I have no idea of this particular seller or their roll. I thought that it was important to share the fact that this type of roll can be made by anyone who has the tools.
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Nope haven't gotten another bird...the season ends tomorrow.
Walkers are slower right now as I try to get the last 6 (+/-) Wheat cents I need to complete that set.
Speedy
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That's exciting about the lincs- to be sooo close. I think you have the 09-s VDB, correct? What else do you need for completion?
Don
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Valued Member
United States
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Nope--I've looked at a few but haven't picked the one I want yet...I'm down to....
1909-SVDB
1911-S
1912-S
1914-S
1915-S
1924-D
and I should be getting a 1931-S in this week to replace the one I had that was fake!
Speedy
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I can tell you right now that the old saying "practice makes perfect" as I have and can open a bank wrapped roll, take out and replace the coins I wish to keep and re-roll the ends with my bare hands. Took a lot of practice, patience and finger nails but it CAN be done. After practicing for what seemed forever I can do it now without much effort! I wouldn't touch this auction with a ten foot pole!
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Forum Mom
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I wouldn't touch this auction. The seller obviously has something to hide given his low feedback rating and the fact that he doesn't want anyone to see the comments. What concerns me is that there are people who will bid on this and really believe that they are going to get coins that are worth more than they paid - and they're not.  |
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Rest in Peace
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Originally posted by Susanlynn9
I wouldn't touch this auction. The seller obviously has something to hide given his low feedback rating and the fact that he doesn't want anyone to see the comments. What concerns me is that there are people who will bid on this and really believe that they are going to get coins that are worth more than they paid - and they're not.
I think reading P.T Barnum's biography should be a prerequisite for ebay membership and bidding. EVERYTHING about this seller and his auction raises red flags, from his low feedback score to his "private" feedback to his ever-so-carefully worded description (he did NOT state that this was an unopened roll; he stated only that this roll had a down-leaf Wisconsin quarter on the end). This guy's a Pro! He knows how to appeal to peoples' inherent greed without promising more than he can deliver and without crossing the line into fraud. He probably was instrumental in setting up various state lotteries and he may run numbers on the side. It's gonna be an expensive lesson for some poor buyer. |
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