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 Posted 12/19/2006  04:33 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Greeting all,

I've just finished posting 45 ancient Roman and Byzantine coins on my omnicollection site. I'll be posting a lot more in the next few days. Check them out at:

http://www.omnicoin.com/?collection=echizento

Ron

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 Posted 12/19/2006  06:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add josie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very good collection ech.

I am more interest on coin from first AD.

But still didnt know who started inscribing the motto in GOD we trust.

seen some coin in print long time ago a jewish coin having a tetramagaton letter a name of GOD.

Well many expert in acient times they have a wide knowledge they can share.
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 Posted 12/19/2006  08:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice bunch of ancients you've got there, echizento.

Now, for Josie's question. There are several possible answers:

1. References to "gods" appear on some of the earliest coins; many if not most of the "archaic period" (pre 500 BC) coins feature portraits of the local deity. Normally, if a city had a prominent temple to a particular god, that god featured on the coinage - a simple way of saying "this god is our patron and protector". Inscriptions on the coins explicitly saying this first appear on early Roman Imperial issues, eg. "IOVI CONSERVATORI" (Jupiter our protector).

2. References to the Judeo-Christian God appear later. The ancient Jews considered the tetragrammaton name YHWH too holy to even pronounce, let alone place on coins which gentiles might touch, so ancient Jewish coins don't have such a motto - they usually say "Jerusalem the Holy" or some such. Christian symbolism began to appear on coins once "Christian governments" appeared on the scene in the 300's; Axum (ancient Ethiopia) was first, followed by Rome. Still, the name of God/Christ didn't make an appearance until well into the Byzantine period. In the Middle ages, of course, Christian symbols and mottos proliferated on many European coinages. These were usually in Latin.

3. The coins you're probably thinking of are some early Swedish coins with the tetragrammaton YHWH, in Hebrew, appearing on them. I'm not sure when they started; they were still making them when Krause kicks in, in 1601, though they stopped shortly afterwards.

4. The first reference to God in the English language on coins was on the Cromwell Commonwealth coins of the English Civil War period (1649-1656): "GOD WITH VS". The specific form "In God We Trust" is uniquely American in origin.
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 Posted 12/19/2006  08:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks, I got a lot more to add.

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 Posted 12/19/2006  12:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add josie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I know you will reply sap THANK YOU.

Even the roman is first it is still very nice to have that words in the coin.

Today only few country do that and the majority of their people is most likely same as in US and GB.
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 Posted 12/20/2006  05:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
On coins of the German Empire "Gott Mit Uns" (God with us) is inscribed around the edge.
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 Posted 02/12/2007  09:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sinbad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi there Echizento

I would like to puchase some of the French coins you have, could you send a price list?

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 Posted 02/19/2007  9:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hello Sinbad,

Contact me **using forum email**. Let me know which ones and we can take it from there.

Ron

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enchizento becarful posting your Email in the wide open what you could do is email sinbad and then he would have your email, the moderators will most likely remove your email, they want to protect you , as well as others.
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 Posted 02/20/2007  05:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks, I appreciate you pointing that out to me.
Ron
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