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vermontensium Moderator United States 16679 Posts	Posted 10/05/2011 11:12 pm Yeah, the date has definitely been messed with. If he is so sure it's genuine, why not offer a money back guarantee to the buyer if it does not come back from a reputable TPG as genuine? Enough said. swcoin.ecrater.com Report this Post to the Staff
merclover Bedrock of the Community United States 10635 Posts	Posted 10/05/2011 11:50 pm Seems like he is selling a counterfeit coin, yet trying to misdirect buyers. Is this the type of auction that should be reported to ebay as fraudulent? Les Report this Post to the Staff
Moe145 Pillar of the Community United States 8904 Posts	Posted 10/06/2011 12:11 am The 7's are not even close. The weak N's are not even close. Total fake for a business strike. Check out the real 7's: (MUCH wavier across the top!) Edited by Moe145 10/06/2011 12:12 am Report this Post to the Staff
vermontensium Moderator United States 16679 Posts	Posted 10/06/2011 12:28 am Exactly. Great point Moe! swcoin.ecrater.com Report this Post to the Staff
johnny54321 Rest in Peace United States 4849 Posts	Posted 10/06/2011 02:37 am Nice Moe! We should report his BIN to ebay. Report this Post to the Staff
Moe145 Pillar of the Community United States 8904 Posts	Posted 10/06/2011 09:25 am Quote: We should report his BIN to ebay. Done! Report this Post to the Staff
vermontensium Moderator United States 16679 Posts	Posted 10/06/2011 10:13 pm Still up. He is calling it a Proof now! swcoin.ecrater.com Report this Post to the Staff
Moe145 Pillar of the Community United States 8904 Posts	Posted 10/07/2011 1:23 pm Quote: He is calling it a Proof now! That may make up for the strong N's but the 7's are still incorrect. Proof 7's are identical to business strike 7's (obviously!) What irks me, people will pay $1,000's of dollars for such an obvious fake. And then, when it's determined it's fake, they will then try to pass on their loss to some other poor schmuck rather than admit their foolishness by not being knowledgeable about the coin in the first place. Edited by Moe145 10/07/2011 1:23 pm Report this Post to the Staff
beaglebailey Pillar of the Community United States 716 Posts	Posted 10/07/2011 1:43 pm I think the one thing that we can take from all this is that when dealing with key dates-buy certified only, stay away from raw coins. Report this Post to the Staff
vermontensium Moderator United States 16679 Posts	Posted 10/07/2011 5:07 pm I just bought a raw one on ebay but I know the diagnostics on this date well. This coin is an obvious fraud and my advice to anyone seeking an 1877 that is unsure of it's authenticity, is to buy one TPG'd. swcoin.ecrater.com Report this Post to the Staff
big777bill Valued Member United States 376 Posts	Posted 10/07/2011 5:43 pm Quote: my advice to anyone seeking an 1877 that is unsure of it's authenticity, is to buy one TPG'd. Or buy from a reputable dealer in IHCs such as Charmy Harker or Rick Snow @ Eagle Eye Report this Post to the Staff
upstate Pillar of the Community United States 3283 Posts	Posted 10/07/2011 5:44 pm Quote: I know the diagnostics on this date well Dave, Besides the date and the weak "n" what else should I look for? I did see one once that was like a type 2 1886 with the feathers etc. so I know you need to look at the entire coin but is there anything else specific other than the date and weak "n" I should be looking at? thanks, Steve Report this Post to the Staff
vermontensium Moderator United States 16679 Posts	Posted 10/07/2011 7:04 pm Most but not all are fasioned from 1879 dated coins. The 1879 has much more bolder devices, especially the lettering which is a dead giveaway. Under magnification, you should be able to spot the 7 as off, as well as those you mentioned. That's why it's important a clear return policy is honored. swcoin.ecrater.com Report this Post to the Staff
merclover Bedrock of the Community United States 10635 Posts	Posted 10/07/2011 7:08 pm It's illegal to sell counterfits on ebay... this has already been reported to ebay... why don't they take it down? Report this Post to the Staff
vermontensium Moderator United States 16679 Posts	Posted 10/07/2011 7:45 pm Because they are making money on the fees...my guess. swcoin.ecrater.com Report this Post to the Staff
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