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1909-S Indian Head...catch Of The Day

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I don't need to wonder how long it will take me to fill the 09-S slot in my set anymore. It's not the best I've ever seen. In fact...I had to really goose the brightness and contrast to get to where I could make it out, but the mint mark is there alright.

I picked this up from a Canadian Dealer this morning for $15.40. I'd read on here that Canadian dealers were good for "dropping" mint marks, which I assume means failing to mention them. I decided to play with the brightness and contrast on the very dark jpegs provided by the seller, and here's what I found.

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 Posted 09/27/2011  08:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chancellor Sutler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here's a little better tweak to the reverse image. I don't know if the green really exists or not, but I think it's just from having to skew the digitization so much. The seller typically denotes problems, and there was no mention ... so I'll bet it's not green when it gets here.

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 Posted 09/27/2011  09:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tyler S to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If that is the real deal - that's excellent! The green appearing is probably just effects of trying to edit such a dark/low resolution JPEG. Congrats on your pickup.
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 Posted 09/27/2011  09:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chancellor Sutler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I hope it is real. There are a couple things that stand out ... like the second 9 looking like perhaps an altered 8 ... not sure, but I'll know more when it gets here. It was worth a shot.

The mint mark looks to be situated a bit north of where it should be. That picture's taken through a carboard staple type 2 x 2, and that does funny things. Again ... in hand, I'll know.

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 Posted 09/27/2011  12:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If that is real, a great price for that one. Keep us informed.
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 Posted 09/27/2011  1:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ilikeikes to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The secret is out---nice find!
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Wow, this could be a great find.

Now we patiently wait for the results.
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It couldn't happen twice in one day ...

I just bought another 1909 from a seller who has a couple lots up, and selected a few individual coins to list. I paid 18.00 to the door for this one. Look closely under that crud. That one is more in keeping with the size and placement of the San Francisco mint mark. This one feels better, even though it's a lower grade coin.


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 Posted 09/27/2011  5:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hesgut to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't know...I don't really see anything conclusive on any or these pics.

The rumor that canadian sellers often forget about mintmarks on US coins...does anyone have any experience where this has been true or is it just a rumor
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A great deal indeed if genuine. I too have never heard of certain Canadian sellers adding mintmarks.
I would have paid $15 all day long for that gamble, what the heck.
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I'm hoping both are real, great find!
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Good luck! I hope they both are '09 S's!
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 Posted 09/27/2011  7:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add vanbroj to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Better let us know ! We will give you a virtual shoulder to cry on if they are not "S"
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 Posted 09/27/2011  8:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chancellor Sutler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Clearly, the odds are against either being the real deal, but I'm adventurous. Sometimes these things turn out, sometimes they don't.

My strategy is probably the same as that of a lot of people, namely to hold the best of what I buy and sell off what I need to in order to cover my cost and see what I can keep as my margin of profit.

I've made a few really good pickups in the past couple months. The best deals required a little luck, buying from fuzzy pictures and/or from folks not versed in numismatic lingo.

I'll keep you posted ... either way.

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Cool and fun gambles! Best of luck! =)
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I hope it all works out in your favor.
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