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 Posted 10/09/2011  11:03 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add lukkyseven to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Figured the Bullion forum is as good of a place as any.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/9-27-oz-900...em4cfab7c3bf

It would sure stand out next to some 10oz bars!
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 Posted 10/09/2011  11:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ICanSeeYou7687 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not really that far from spot... If you could get a really good deal on it, you could send it to one of those refineries and melt them into a bar, lol
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 Posted 10/09/2011  12:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'd take a sledgehammer and show the center coins.
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 Posted 10/09/2011  5:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Buddy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Great way to hide fakes.
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 Posted 10/09/2011  6:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Canadian-Banknotes to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My question is, if they spent the money to get it chemically tested, then why not show scans/pictures of that information?

Seems suspicious to me.
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 Posted 10/09/2011  6:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ed_B to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
At nearly $27 an oz. on the minimum bid for an ugly lump, it doesn't raise any interest on my part. Rare it may be but... :-/
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 Posted 10/09/2011  10:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
First, there's nothing "rare" about a stack of dollars with fire damage. I can duplicate them as fast as I can stack coins and hit them with an oxy-ac torch.

Why bother testing them, and not showing the results? If you know it was a stack of dollars, that's enuf.

Why would anyone even pay melt value, when the same amount of silver scrtap can be bought in clean silver that doesn't have all sorts of fire contaminants in it?

Why didn't they sell to the tester, and not waste time on ebay?
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 Posted 10/09/2011  11:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Canadian-Banknotes to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Why bother testing them, and not showing the results? If you know it was a stack of dollars, that's enuf.

He never said that he owned the coins before they were burnt.

"10 Coins that was stored in a house that burned down and melted them together."
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 Posted 10/10/2011  07:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lukkyseven to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yea I just thought it was funny that this would end up on ebay. I'm sure someone will buy it.
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I would only consider it at a below melt price, not worth IMO otherwise.
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 Posted 10/10/2011  10:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Mr Z-

My point exactly. There is nothing about this lump of coins to justify a premium over melt value. If you could prove they came from the SF earthquack or Chicago fire, that might be a bit different.
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 Posted 10/11/2011  12:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ed_B to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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First, there's nothing "rare" about a stack of dollars with fire damage.

No doubt. But that is the claim made by the seller and seems to be his reason for a higher than expected asking price. Personally, I think that something like this should come with a considerable discount but maybe that's just me.
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How does 10 Morgan & Peace dollar equal 9.27 troy oz of silver? Every Silver Melt Calculator that I see says 10 dollars equals 7.7345 troy oz of silver.

& This auction brings new meaning to silver "MELT" value.
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 Posted 10/11/2011  05:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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How does 10 Morgan & Peace dollar equal 9.27 troy oz of silver? Every Silver Melt Calculator that I see says 10 dollars equals 7.7345 troy oz of silver.


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He never said that he owned the coins before they were burnt.

"10 Coins that was stored in a house that burned down and melted them together."


The seller said he had them tested. If he knew they were $, what needs to be tested?

I've had a fire. Zincolns might melt like that, but it would take a tremendous amount of heat for a silver dollar to bend like the end ones. It looks like it was hanging over the edge of something like a steel shelf (first pix), and why would a stack of dollars be like that?

7.734 oz silver + 0.859 oz alloy + 0.677 oz crap from the fire = 9.27 oz total weight. That makes the silver purity 7.734/9.27 = 0.834 fine.

No matter how you figure it, it's 7.734 oz maximum silver content (and no one but a refiner can do anything with it), so the minimum bid is still $32.32 per oz (and prolly more, due to wear before the fire).
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 Posted 10/11/2011  4:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chris beatie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
to me it looks like if you slam a mallet in to the side the coins will separate.
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