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Mex 1880 Pi 8R... Thoughts?

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 Posted 10/09/2011  5:54 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add realeswatcher to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
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 Posted 10/09/2011  5:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Namachieli to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Details look mushy
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 Posted 10/09/2011  8:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add swamperbob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I looked very closely at that coin when it was first posted and I just took a second look.

My initial judgement which I confirmed is REAL.

This coin uses the correct die style and it exhibits traits often seen on genuine Potosi strikes of 1879 and 1880. Dunigan refers to this "uneven strike" issue under the entry for 1879. The cause of the poorly struck up coins was often poorly rolled sheet silver. At least that seems to be the clear case here. This mint was operating in private hands under lease and may have been experiencing problems in the rolling and blanking phase due to worn equipment. I have been fooled by other 1880 Pi strikes and actually purchased one with the weak edged cap believing it was a forgery.

I am unaware of a counterfeit of this particular coin.

But $80 is too steep for me to gamble and buy another original. Plus in my opinion as an original that price is just too high in any event.
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 Posted 10/09/2011  11:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add realeswatcher to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The engraving of LIBERTAD is amateurish... All else being equal, I would want to darn the coin on that alone.

Interesting piece...
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realeswatcher Many of the coins may look amateurish but the LIBERTAD in this case is punched exactly as I would expect for an 1880 Pi issue.

I still vote real.
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I looked at the one pictured in Resplandores and the ebay example seems to match up the same weakness seen between the 8 and 10 o'clock position.
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 Posted 10/10/2011  12:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RealPeso to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks just like a 1884 I have, although mine is in better condition it was made with the same die style.

I also vote real but thumbs down on the price.
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Speaking to what you guys have mentioned on these years for the Potosi mint:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MEXICO-SAN-...230682332974
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