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Where Do You Get Valuable Coins?

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 Posted 07/01/2015  11:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CLS12 to your friends list
I agree. Been collecting about 1.5 years and the accumulation adds up quick. Figure out what you like and fits your budget and then slowly fill holes as you save for each. Mercury dimes for example I pay $1.50 or less each in junk. I think most franklins can be found for less than $10 each... But if you desire Morgan's you'll likely find under $20 each to be rare.
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 Posted 07/01/2015  12:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Scropper to your friends list
Check the bargain bins of your local coin shop!

Hmmm... Go carefully. Coin shop dealers (and shop dealers in general, to be fair) don't generally react well to "I don't want to spend a lot of money."

But tell them you're interested in working on an old type set slowly and you want to start with bargain coins so you can learn about them.

The thing to understand about these coins is that they will have very little value to a dealer, so don't expect to sell them back ever (unless you research and discover - and verify... here, for instance - it's a scarce variety.)

You could sell them on ebay when you're ready to upgrade.

But this way, you'll establish a relationship with your local coin shop and hopefully it will be a positive one!

Edited to add my experience with copper:
I started working on my Wheat set YEARS ago and I found I could either spend $30 on a decent '26 S or a decent Braided Hair Large Cent. Or $100 on a 1909 S or $100 on a decent Draped Bust. Be careful getting in to Early American Copper - it can be quite addicting! (In a great way, in my opinion.)

Edited to add:
I don't do detecting because I'm in the Southwest, but there are tons of great detecting finds in the East!
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 Posted 07/01/2015  1:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thecoinguy1964 to your friends list
To get valuable coins, you either have to very lucky or very wealthy. In lucky, I mean fortunate to find one. Valuable coins are rare, and they are rare because of their scarcity, whether it be mintage or condition. I've bought thousands & thousands of coins over the years, everything from pennies to dollars, and my valuable rare coin finds have been very minimal. In wealthy, you have to pay for the rarity or scarcity. The days of pulling any of the old valuable coins out of circulation, has been dead and gone for some 50 to 60 years.
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 Posted 07/01/2015  1:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GR58 to your friends list
This can be a hard hobby .... when starting out.
Everyone has a comfort level, as far as the price
they like to pay for a coin.

What helped me get to where my collection is, was
metal detecting and putting away 90% silver.

When I was younger I put in a lot of time at metal
detecting. I would go to parks, schools and beaches.

Over the years I did find a lot of silver, but I also
took all the clad coin I found and bought silver dimes.
At the beaches I did well finding gold rings.

Over the years I put away thousands of silver dimes
and a couple hundred gold rings. When silver and
gold went high a couple years ago, I sold the dimes and
gold rings to buy collectable coins.

If you have a local coin shop, try buying 90% silver or
Silver Eagles. Just keep buying every payday. It will
build up. When silver prices go up again, you might not
feel to bad selling some off to buy the better coins.

Now I work a part time job and use the money to buy coins.

If you really want a coin bad enough ... you can find a
way to purchase it .... sometimes it might take years to
figure out a way, but it can happen.
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 Posted 07/01/2015  1:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tkbslc to your friends list
It's kind of a waste of time to sit around and wonder how people afford the things they do. You can do that with any aspect of life. There is always someone who will outspend you, whoever you are.

If you have a $10 coin budget, then find the best series of coins that you like and can enjoy on that budget. Coin collecting does not HAVE to be expensive. You don't have to buy rare coins. You can collect nice examples of modern coins or poor grade examples of older coins.

Now if you DO want to buy more rare and high grade coins, then all you need is time. $10 every paycheck adds up to a very nice $520 coin every two years, or a $260 coin once per year, or two $130 coins every year. Some people are fine doing that. Others want to get a new coin every week and so they fill albums with lots of $5 and $10 coins. Others don't buy anything, they just go through mountains of bank rolls looking for collectible coins. There is no wrong answer, just your own personal method of collecting. Just because someone posts an expensive coin doesn't mean they are rich, they might have saved for months to buy it. It might be the only coin they get this year. Be careful not to assume too much and instead look at how you can make what you want happen.



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 Posted 07/01/2015  2:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hello There to your friends list
Thanks for the in depth replies, that would give me something to think about and hopefully make up my mind.
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 Posted 07/01/2015  3:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
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Are with more spirit chased than enjoy'd.

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 Posted 07/01/2015  3:37 pm  Show Profile   Check Pacificoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Pacificoin to your friends list
If your budget is ten dollars a coin do not despair. You can buy lots of different QUALITY pieces from all over the world.At the level of ten dollars you cannot get hurt financially and can have a lot of fun and get a numismatic education at the same time. One of the most interesting collections I ever had the opportunity to view was a true collectors base metal coins of the world from 1901- 1999 basically the twentieth century. He had a great eye and NEVER spent more than 20 dollars U.S. On a single piece. Since he had been at it over 40 years many of the pieces were worth quite a bit more,than when first acquired.
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 Posted 07/01/2015  3:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add paralyse to your friends list
Valuable, as in expensive, obviously requires a great deal of luck or money depending on how "valuable" a coin is, but there are some ways around this.

The Internet has made it much easier for people to instantly know the value of a coin that they find, meaning that it's become very difficult to find true bargains based on lack of knowledge. For instance, 50 years ago, someone putting away rolls of the newly-obsolete Wheat cents might have known that if they find a 1909-S or VDB that the coin is valuable, but back then, the value of things like the 1922 No D, 1931-S, 1914-D, etc. was not common knowledge outside of numismatic circles and at times not even within those. Because of this, you could still find those coins in Wheat cent rolls at banks or that people had put away in their houses. Nowadays, everyone knows which Wheat cents are worth the most money, and so the odds of finding one of the more valuable Wheat cents in circulation, in a coin roll, or elsewhere is much lower than it once was.

A few suggestions,

- If you regularly shop at local businesses and are friendly with the staff, ask if they'd be willing to save any "weird" or "unusual" or "old" coins that they receive from customers throughout the day, and then offer to pay them a small "finders' fee" in exchange for helping you out; for instance, if one of my cashiers saves me a silver Roosevelt dime, I'd give her a regular modern dime to keep the till even, and then a dollar extra as a tip for helping.

- Similar to the above, if you have good relationships with any local, small (not national chain) banks, the same method will work with tellers; build your friendships! The coin counting machines often have "reject trays" that catch silver, world coins, and other things.

- Set a budget every year for coins that you're comfortable with and put that money into savings. That could be anywhere from $10 to $100,000. At the end of the year, buy the nicest coin that catches your fancy and is within your budget. If you invest only $500 per year, and buy the nicest $500 coin you can every year, in 20 short years you'll have a $10,000 collection. If you invest $2,500 per year into coins, you'll have a bare-minimum $50k collection in 20 years. And unless something catastrophic happens, your $2,500 coin bought in year 1 will probably still be worth at least $2,500 in year 20, if not more. Seek out the advice of seasoned collectors, and it's possible to turn your $2,500 a year coin investment into much more than $50,000 after 20 years. You can also speed up the timetable of ownership on, say, a $500 a year budget by buying 5 $100 coins, or 10 $50 coins, or whatever suits you.

- Metal detecting can find valuable coins, particularly on the coasts, New England, the antebellum South, California and Colorado gold country, the silver and gold boomtowns of the west, etc. You'll curse every day the $1,500 you spent on your detector until the first time you pop a Fugio cent or a Seated Liberty half dollar from the ground, and then you'll forget you ever paid for the detector to begin with. It's a lot of work: heat and cold, land owner permissions, digging and pinpointing and digging some more only to pull out a 5 year old quarter, but the great finds make up for the piles of pull tabs, square nails, and other junk. Be advised that even valuable coins don't come out of the ground mint, unless they're hoards or in containers, so that even if you do pull some truly valuable coins out of the ground, their value is likely to be mitigated somewhat by environmental damage, corrosion, porosity, and other issues that require professional conservation.

- If you are going to hunt coin rolls, focus on smaller banks, as above; a good place to start is in Kennedy half dollar rolls. Most people know a silver dime or quarter when they see one, but the 40% silver 1965-1969 Kennedy half dollars are often missed. With modern bank equipment, the days of finding silver in coin rolls are mostly long gone, so banks that don't use auto-sorter/auto-counter machines are better targets for CRH. CRH is much better for finding mint error coins and circulated Proof coins.

- It's easier to know what coins are "valuable" if you specialize in a certain area. I know offhand what Washington quarter dates and mintmarks are more valuable than others, because I specialize in that series; on the other hand, I couldn't tell you anything about Large Cents as far as which dates are more valuable than others, because I haven't studied it. Find a coin series or set that you enjoy collecting, that attracts you -- whether it's Wheat cents, Barber coinage, Seated Liberty coinage, Mercury dimes, whatever -- and learn as much as you can about that series, and that way you'll recognize what is valuable and what is less so, just on sight. That, alone, gives you an advantage vs. an uninformed collector or dealer. There are plenty of people who can do this for many coin series and sets, but it takes years of practice and hands-on experience.


I'll say this in conclusion: finding valuable coins is like finding valuable diamonds. You can go to a jeweler and buy as nice of a diamond as you can afford, as often as you like; or you can go to Crater of Diamonds in Arkansas and dig in the dirt, looking for that once-in-a-lifetime 7.83-carat uncut stone down in the kimberlite layer. It's a trade-off of money and instant gratification vs. perseverance and gambling or luck. In much the same way, sure, I might find a 1909-S VDB Wheat cent in a roll of coins if I spend enough time looking at rolls of coins, at a much lower cost than it would cost to obtain otherwise, but it's "easier" to buy one from a coin shop or at auction, albeit much more expensive.

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 Posted 07/01/2015  4:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hello There to your friends list
Is a Red Book a must and should I get the new one or older ones will do just fine regarding prices?
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 Posted 07/01/2015  7:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add batboy to your friends list
If you can find a coin show nearby, those are great places to browse. A local coin shop is another good place to check out. If you want an idea of fair market value, try using numismedia (see link).

http://www.numismedia.com/fmv/fmv.shtml
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 Posted 07/01/2015  7:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DoubleEagle20 to your friends list
Lincoln cents are perfect for anyone on a tight budget.
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In my personal opinion, Jefferson nickels are the best place to start collecting for a beginner. The majority can be found in circulation. No key dates to stop you if on a tight budget. Only a couple semi-keys that are readily available for a reasonable price at the local coin shop.
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 Posted 07/01/2015  8:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Scropper to your friends list
I feel a Red Book is a must, and I'm a huge fan (I talk about it on my site) of getting some old ones if you're serious about learning about truly investing. You can often find them cheap in $1 book shops and for just a few bucks in vintage book shops.

Most of them post 1960 are just a couple of bucks, and condition doesn't matter a lot unless you're trying to make a nice set of them.

Looking up a few coins from both a current edition and an older one will be a pretty eye opening experience!

You don't need to get the latest greatest, getting a 2016 is a great thing to do - always get the next year's book in early spring, that's when the dealers get the best deals on them. But you should be able to get a 2015 or 2014 for less than the $14.95 msrp and it will have 90% of the information you need. Red Book prices are typically high anyway.
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