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PCGS Must Be Desperate . Hmm ?

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 Posted 08/10/2020  11:22 am  Show Profile   Check Zurie's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Zurie to your friends list
If I found that in a bag of wheaties, I doubt I would have even set it aside....
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 Posted 08/10/2020  11:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list
my question is. who would waste $$ grading this?
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Look who the seller is, edynamicmarketing, The king of questionable toning....

edit to add - this offering sums it up for edy - https://www.ebay.com/itm/2015-P-Aus...AOSwVD9cr0mu
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 Posted 08/10/2020  2:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CentSearcher to your friends list
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 Posted 08/10/2020  2:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Keith67 to your friends list

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my question is. who would waste $$ grading this?

Someone that knows no better
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 Posted 08/10/2020  3:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add T-BOP to your friends list

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Why would PCGS be desperate?

For the audacity to take submitters money to grade and slab this Lincoln .
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 Posted 08/10/2020  6:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KYCopperCoins to your friends list
What ticks me off is that they'll tag a coin questionable color when it is nearly mint red at times, but straight grade a coin like that, probably because it has no real value, but a semi key or key wheat should be regarded differently.
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 Posted 08/10/2020  7:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam_E to your friends list

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For the audacity to take submitters money to grade and slab this Lincoln .


I dont think it should be PCGS's responsibility to determine what should or should not be graded, I'm pretty sure people send in near worthless coins all the time. For example, if someone were to come on this forum with an obviously damaged coin thinking it were an error, and submitting it to PCGS anyway desbite out advice, I have no problem with PCGS taking their money and sending the coin back designated as damaged.
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 Posted 08/10/2020  7:50 pm  Show Profile   Check Zurie's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Zurie to your friends list
He's a seller of artificially toned coins. My guess is that he buys cheap slabbed coins and then somehow gasses them in the slab so they get some color. That would explain why ugly coins are in a slab, but obviously not why they were sent to PCGS in the first place. Here are a couple more from the same seller.

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My guess is that he buys cheap slabbed coins and then somehow gasses them in the slab so they get some color. That would explain why ugly coins are in a slab, but obviously not why they were sent to PCGS in the first place.

I have to disagree with your theory . I don't see how anyone can think that coin has good toned color . And I don't believe this seller sent it off to PCGS for grading and slabbing . BTW , who in their right mind would buy a slabbed common date & mint 1946 crappy looking Wheat cent graded MS-61 , when you can buy a full red MS-64 for a few bucks ?
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I didn't say the color looked good! I suspect these aren't his finest works--probably his rejects that turned out poorly. If you can buy a slabbed mint state coin that someone is dumping for a buck, artificially tone it, and turn around and sell it for $50, that's a pretty good (albeit unethical) business model. He's got over 15,000 feedbacks, so he must be having some success...
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What ticks me off is that they'll tag a coin questionable color when it is nearly mint red at times, but straight grade a coin like that, probably because it has no real value, but a semi key or key wheat should be regarded differently.


Indeed - NGC too.
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 Posted 08/11/2020  8:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Suomi to your friends list
The coin is probably not the same one in the holder, hence why theres only 1 photo
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 Posted 08/11/2020  10:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Earle42 to your friends list

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For the audacity to take submitters money to grade and slab this Lincoln .


I dont think it should be PCGS's responsibility to determine what should or should not be graded, I'm pretty sure people send in near worthless coins all the time. For example, if someone were to come on this forum with an obviously damaged coin thinking it were an error, and submitting it to PCGS anyway desbite out advice, I have no problem with PCGS taking their money and sending the coin back designated as damaged.


Agreed - PCGS shoukld not be the ones to determine which coins should be graded. But they should have a common sense of decency and business character so that when an obvious piece of junk is sent to them, they will not slab and will not charge.

And there are tons of cheap slabbed coins b/c the way the marketers of these companies work, there are so many people willing to gamble that the opinion the company gives will come back high enough to make a great profit for the owner when sold. Of course a lot of people never really are aware that you can break out a coin, resubmit it to the same company, and are never guaranteed the coin will receive the same grade it had! If more people were aware of this, I think the companies would lose a lot of their business/reputation b/c the masses presently seem to think these companies are THE last word in coins. Otherwise this forum would not always remind people to Buy the coin and not the slab!
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 Posted 08/12/2020  05:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oriole to your friends list
A bigger question is why was the seller originally asking $120 for something that books for less than a $1? Because of the perceived wonderful toning?

Given the mystique around grading, I am not at all surprised that it was sent in for grading. Here in CCF people are always asking "should I have it graded", or see that "some" wheat cents have sold for $1,000.
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