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Very nice assembly of Classic Dates!
My goodness, Carrs, how long have you been collecting?
I only have a few, just 8 or 9 Classic Heads in my collection...
You mention 1811 is scarcer than 1809. I was not aware of that.
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Thank you for the excellent summary. Although I do not collect these coins I thoroughly enjoyed reading your journey through the series and viewing the photos.  Take a look at my other hobby ... http://www.jk-dk.art |
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If Highschool was this interesting...I would have sat in the front row!
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Since my main collection is a US Type Set, I only have one Classic Head Large Cent. If I can get this right here are the images:  Yep, just as I thought. I tried a shortcut and it didn't work. I'll see what I can do about that. Edited by kanga
12/20/2022 09:47 am
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Most informative, thank you!
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@paralyse - thanks! I like that 287 a lot as well. there are some coins in this pile I would like to upgrade (1811/0 I'm looking at you) @ gemanivs - I bought my first large cent in 1992 and have been collecting coins ever since. here is that coin. I bought it for $1. it was arguably the most expensive $1 purchase of my life.   i should clarify what I was saying about 1809 vs 1811. I think there are less of each of the 1811 variants than there are total 1809s. for a date run the 1809 seems to be a touch harder than 1811 but if you want to do the RedBook set or a variety set the 1811s are going to be as hard or harder. the mintage between the two years is close with a slightly lower mintage in 1811. the 11/0 represents about 1/3 of the surviving 1811s. so a mintage estimate of ~70k 1811/0, ~140k 1811 normal date and ~220k 1809s seems reasonable for napkin math. they are all scarce coins but the 1809 costs almost 2x the 1811 in circulated grades. PCGS has strait graded similar numbers of 1809s (228) and 1811 regular dates (238) and significantly fewer 11/0s (109). my experience is that it is easier to find an 1809 but the 09 will cost more. years ago there was a "key date" phenomenon similar to the conditional rarity insanity numismatics is gripped by today. dealers would find the bottleneck for each set and ratchet the price of the coin waaaay up. 1823 large cents are similar. they arent scarcer than the 1821 but they cost about 3x the 1821. 1857 vs 1849 braided hair is in the same boat. |
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I still have my first Large Cent as well, an 1848 that I bought in the early 1990s for $15 in Rogers/Springdale area, Arkansas
I promptly cleaned it as soon as I got home with it.
Many times, perceived scarcity / being a so-called "key date" drives value more than actual scarcity or condition scarcity.
I often use 1909 S-VDB / 1914-D / 1926-S wheat cents to show that disparity.
1909 S-VDB in 65RD lists around $7500
1914-D in 65RD lists around $18.5k
1926-S in 65RD? Fork out $120k.
Ask an uninformed or relatively new collector which of the three is worth the most money and 1909 S-VDB will usually be the answer most of the time, because it's "famous" as a key date.
However, more of them were saved and in higher grades, being a new design and with all the talk about those three little initials on the reverse.
In reality, 1909 S-VDB is easier to find (and less expensive) in 65RD than many of the other S mint Wheats in the 1910s and 1920s.
Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890 "Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis |
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Fantastic coins and background information. Quote:
...is often one of the big bottlenecks to completing the 7070 album Indeed. While it is only the fifth most expensive coin in my 7070, it has the lowest grade of those five by far. |
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Great info & nice coins especially the 1813 S-292 R-2 & 1814 S-294 R-1
I've been collecting for a couple years... Favorite Coin's are Standing Liberty quarters, Working on my type set | Coffee, Corvettes, Coins & the CCF what could be better? |
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thats a great addition to the point I was trying to make paralyse! excellent example.
@ jbuck - I had a pretty similar experience the last time I did a 7070. I'm the large cent guy locally so I get a bunch of people working on type sets stopping by. they usually arent very happy with the classic heads that fit in their price range. the base model is ugly and a decent looking coin gets pretty expensive.
@ jakes coins- that 1814 fills me with mixed emotions. its so close to being a knock out coin but the damage is pretty significant. in pictures it breaks my heart. in hand that dent is right where my finger sits when I hold it so its almost like its just a really nice coin. thats a several thousand dollar dent right there.
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12/21/2022 11:03 am
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the base model is ugly and a decent looking coin gets pretty expensive. That is the truth! I finally found an "affordable" one that spoke to me, "I did my job and survived to tell the tale."  |
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Great coins! Worth multiples of Bid in really choice glossy brown... saw a raw 1811/0 choice brown VG bring 1200 on ebay several years ago. If you are offered a nice brown no-problem Classic Head anywhere near Bid, just buy it-even the 1814's. Can't go wrong |
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Nice information and collection, thanks for sharing.
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Cool post! I picked up a couple at EAC St. Louis- images aren't great and coins look better in hand:   |
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I picked up a couple at EAC St. Louis- images aren't great and coins look better in hand: Nice examples! |
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