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To Clean; Not To Clean: War Nickels?

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 Posted 06/04/2011  3:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TJsCoins to your friends list
Majority rules! I will let them be! I like them enough that I am looking for more!! It's exciting to find a 35% silver coin in a roll!
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 Posted 06/04/2011  3:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lukkyseven to your friends list
They are in better condition than the typical cull War Nickel, but not nice enough to be worth too much more than melt (that's just my opinion). Melt is roughly $2 a coin and if these are in MS60 (which I doubt) they're worth a little over $3. So depending on what you want, cleaning them is only going to remove $1 off of the resale value at most.

If for some reason you really want to just clean one and experiment - do it on the 43 as it's clearly the worser of the two condition wise.
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 Posted 06/04/2011  3:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add soccerdad to your friends list
Every coin book I have read always tells you do not clean coins. When coins are slabbed and cleaned they will be graded as cleaned. Why do collectors keep asking if they should clean coins? Don't clean them.
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 Posted 06/04/2011  5:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rachums107 to your friends list

soccerdad is 100% right

NOT to clean coins
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 Posted 06/04/2011  5:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jpsned to your friends list
Cleaning coins is like someone getting botox. The results are not reality, and you can always tell that something is off.
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 Posted 06/04/2011  5:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add drdave to your friends list
When I was a kid I cleaned OLD silver coins with a baking soda/water paste and rubbed it into the coins with my fingers. I still have them. They are nice and shiny and worn smooth and boy they stick out like a sore thumb. They are now in my melt bin. DON'T clean your coins!
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 Posted 06/05/2011  07:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lukkyseven to your friends list
I'll stick by my statement here... In general you shouldn't clean coins, BUT if you want to experiment with it than this would be a good coin to do it on. The value in this coins is purely in melt (at least the 43 - I do see some step detail in the 45). So if it's slick, shiny, corroded, black, white, green or w/e it's still worth about $2.

Yes you should not clean your coins, read all the books and understand why. If you have the urge (which I'm sure everyone here on this forum has done...) and must do it, than this is a fine coin to clean.
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 Posted 06/05/2011  11:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TJsCoins to your friends list
So I did not use any baking soda or tooth paste. What I did do was soak the coins in vinegar. Here are the the new picks! What do you think? Better? Worse?

Thanks for all your views! I am learning a ton!

To-Clean;-Not-To-Clean:-War-Nickels?

To-Clean;-Not-To-Clean:-War-Nickels?
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 Posted 06/06/2011  12:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RollHunter to your friends list
Soaking them in vinegar damages the coin, so I'd have to say worse.
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 Posted 06/06/2011  12:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TJsCoins to your friends list
I am curious how vinegar damages the coin. I have seen this method posted a couple of times but did not read that it does damage.

Thought I would try it on a couple low end coins. Does the vinegar damage the metal or just the patina? Or is there something else that I am missing.
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 Posted 06/06/2011  12:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wrestling_135 to your friends list
Good question what Todd said. I was wondering how vinegar would cause damage also?
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 Posted 06/06/2011  12:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lincolncentguy to your friends list
I know I will get an ad from BadThad but....Never clean coins!
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 Posted 06/06/2011  12:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add littlemoney to your friends list
vinegar contains acid, If you gotta do it , then no more than a few minutes.
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 Posted 06/06/2011  9:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RollHunter to your friends list

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I am curious how vinegar damages the coin. I have seen this method posted a couple of times but did not read that it does damage.


Littlemoney has it - vinegar contains acetic acid which will react with the surface of the coin. Altering the surface (chemically or mechanically) of a coin does significantly lower its numismatic value in most cases, so keep that in mind. Now, to be honest I've never soaked a War Nickel in vinegar so I couldn't tell you how long it could resist such a bath before being obvious. Regular nickels are obviously acid bathed within a few hours.

If you want to experiment with cleaning coins, I'd suggest starting with something with a higher silver content like Roosevelt dimes or Kennedy halves. You have a passable chance of making one look better with a dip in a cleaning solution like E-Zest or something like that. A circulated War Nickel will always look ugly no matter what you do to it. They just tone too ugly and too quickly.

Please keep in mind that a quick rinse of distilled water or acetone (quick, rinse, not 3 days) isn't considered "cleaning" in the pejorative sense by most collectors. You can call that conservation since neither distilled water nor acetone will generally react with the metal on the coin's surface. Vinegar will. EZest or jewelry cleaner will. Baking soda and toothpaste are even worse since they are abrasive and will mechanically damage the surface of the coin.

Go ahead and search the forum for info on cleaning coins - there are more opinions and more information from people who know more here than I.
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06/06/2011 9:32 pm
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 Posted 06/07/2011  11:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add amassey08873 to your friends list
Here's a somewhat informational site, http://www.wikihow.com/Clean-Coins . The olive oil works pretty good, I've experimented on Lincoln Cents, Indian Heads. Results were acceptable. The down fall is Time. Ultra Sonic cleaner removes a lot of crud, Something I found pretty cool but yet to try is http://(Offsite URL shortening not allowed) /G_1kotDLonM This amazed me!(Edit) Not sure why that didn't work try this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_1k...ture=related If or when I try I'll post the results. Look on Youtube if you find something you'd like to try then search it on google to find out as much pros and cons.
A great book on the these subjects is Coin Chemistry you can find it here http://amzn.com/0971392471
Good Luck.
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06/07/2011 11:40 am
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