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Are Philharmonics made by the offical government Austrian mint? Yes, which is why I am interested in them. |
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Bedrock of the Community
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My opinion, why are you paying more than spot silver price for bullion? Because you have to unless you own a coin store or pawn shop no one sells at spot. Quote:
YOU have to wait that long to break even? The logic and the math are just not there. Silvers moved about 3 dollars in the last 3 days. doesn't seem like a long wait to me. It was sitting around 26 27 and just got up to 35 thats a profit, and if you had a ton back when it was 5 dollars youre now making a huge profit. Not to mention why do you have to sell to a dealer? They across the board give the lowest amount of money on any coin sales, you can get more elsewhere |
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Keep in mind that, for some of us at least, it's not about short-term investing and trying to flip for a quick sale.
I'm stacking to preserve some of my wealth in case the economy tanks and the dollar becomes devalued. Am I sure that will happen? No, which is why I'm investing less than 30% of my savings in PM. My goal is to have enough PM to make a difference if the economy does go south but not so much that I'm left holding an (nearly) empty bag if the economy does manage to improve and silver and gold go back down to historic levels.
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Whatever silver I can easily sell to my local dealer when I need to...
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barryg - THANK YOU. That IS very, very true. The PM market for the past three + years is completely unpredictable. basebal21 - HUH? Silver is at the lowest point today since the beginning on October 2012. http://www.midstatesrecycling.com/p...1/2012-10-31High of $35 on 10/4/2012 and closed at $32 today. So, the $2 over spot silver purchased on 10/4/2012 is now being held at a loss of $5 per ounce as of today....IF you can sell at spot. |
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Right showing that it can move dollars in a few days which can happen both ways for fast profit if thats what youre doing and time it right. It doesn't take it years to climb a few dollars to turn it around. That comment was in response to when you said you have to wait that long to break even and I was pointing out with how it can move thats not the case.
If you look at the history of it theres a spike pretty much every decade where you could turn it around for profit, but you cant have bought everything during the spike for that to work. I'm not stacking right now because I dont like the price in terms of profit potential but if it gets back down to where its been the last 50 years Ill stack big time. Right now I just get a little bit of bullion I like and stick mostly to numismatic silver. But like barry pointed out theres a lot of other reasons people are stacking and most dont seem to be trying to make a quick buck on this forum
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basebal21 - HUH? Silver is at the lowest point today since the beginning on October 2012. If the only time frame you are willing to consider is a few weeks, then of course you won't make much (if any) profit. Look further back than the beginning of October. Silver was below $28/oz as recently as 2 months ago. |
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I know lots of dealers that buy 90 percent at a fixed price, right now about 20 to 22x; depending on the dealer. I know some dealers that are still only paying 16x. And yes; it does not matter if the morgans you are buying are 1921P's or 1885 CC's.
Sure some of us have a conscious and will gladly pay a premium for a valuable coin; whose value, the seller had no idea of. But my experiance is that most dealers dream of those buys and the massive profits they make from them.
To be truthfull as a dealer I have sat this current price upswing out. I am only buying those lots that have numismatic value. I am no longer trying to ride the PM roller coaster; for the reasons Acloco gave in his post yesterday at 9:50pm
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Pillar of the Community
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basebal21 - Ah...gotcha.
In the BIG realm of this....I wish all of us had a time travelling machine. :)
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In the BIG realm of this....I wish all of us had a time travelling machine. :) Oh, yeah! Imagine the gold and silver you could snag via taking some anti-biotics or Kevlar cloth back in time and selling them to TPTB of those days.  |
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I bought a bunch of those new JM 1 oz bars. they look swell, and the premium was just right. Lately I been finding my purchases have been too... numismatic. I was giving my spiel to the wife about how silver is money and why its better to keep our savings in silver, and she says "So, if we have an emergency and need money asap, which ones are you going to sell first?" I must've looked at my collection of wildlife series, pamps, and Perth Mint lunars for way too long before she said "that's it!! no more fancy coins!". Oh well, the bars will still have their appeal! |
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In the BIG realm of this....I wish all of us had a time travelling machine. :) Agreed, I think back to high school and college and all the Gold coins I could have gotten even if just 1 a month or every other month and how much they would have appreciated in value |
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United States
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Back on topic! Lol
I would finish my small 1/10th oz incuse indian roll, and start up new rolls of quarters and dimes, & and then maybe ill finally be able to focus on my CSM roll, if silver were to drop below $30 again.
Is it bad that I get excited for my future purchases when I still have a few orders on the way? lol
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colu41 - believe you are on step 3 in the program. :)
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I will do the same thing I do every night... TRY AND TAKE OVER THE WORLD!  |
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