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Rounding up to the nearest dime on every transaction over a year period could add up, there are people that just don't have any extra money.
Rouding goes up or down.

In most cases, it will probably go down because the money lost is still less that what the retailer y would have paid for a credit card swipe.

With the loss of the cent in Canada, Home Depot (and probably others) has already set a precedent for rounding all cash transactions down.
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I didn't want to say that initially but that's where my line of thinking was going. If you get rid of one, or two, really you'd need to move way up.


I agree. At first I was all for getting rid of the penny since it loses money and it makes sense to save money. Overtime I'm kind of changing my position. Yes people can round up or down or just adjust their prices so it always rounds up, its impossible to predict how stores will react until it happens.

I do think we COULD get rid of the penny if we really wanted to, the nickel however no chance unless we want to see prices take a significant jump unless we redid all of our change. The quarter would have to go for sure with no nickel.

Id also add with the current state of the economy this may not be the best time to change it like that. Theres always unintended consequences when something like this is done
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Pennies are useless (Except to place in my year folders). They cost the US mint 2.41 cents* (as of 2011) to produce and very few people actively circulate them. Nickels are terribly expensive to mint at 11.18 cents* per coin (as of 2011), but phasing them out might be a harder pill to swallow for the public at large.

*http://www.usmint.gov/faqs/circulat...ulating_coin
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the nickel however no chance unless we want to see prices take a significant jump unless we redid all of our change
I cannot stress this enough, rounding goes to the nearest, not the highest. Rounding to the nearest dime is just as easy as rounding to the nearest nickel.

Yes, the quarter becomes awkward without the nickel, but still not impossible for us to adapt. Two dimes will work for Twenty Cents just as easily as two quarter have acted as a half dollar for a very long time now.
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I cannot stress this enough, rounding goes to the nearest, not the highest. Rounding to the nearest dime is just as easy as rounding to the nearest nickel.


In theory yes, but we dont know what stores will actually do unless you pass a law saying that. Even in that case all they would have to do is adjust their prices a few cents so everything comes out to a total that rounds up.


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Yes, the quarter becomes awkward without the nickel, but still not impossible for us to adapt.


I just dont see how it would be possible. If you buy something for 20 cents and give a quarter a store isn't going to give you a dime instead.

I agree it is possible to use two dimes for that purchases but we all know if someone only has a quarter they will use that. Plus they wouldnt even be able to go anywhere to get change for the quarter they would either have to spend it on a more expensive purchase or deposit it in the bank. I just dont see anyway people would be happy with that
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I am for eliminating the one cent coin as long as they make some cool collectible coins commemorating the event like Canada did.
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In theory yes, but we dont know what stores will actually do unless you pass a law saying that.
I bring this up a lot, but there are more than a few places around here that already round cash payments down. One place in particular rounds down to the dollar (they really do not like working with change).

Why is everyone so cynical? It is sickening that so many think that "Every business is out to get us!"

Every business owner should knows that if they do not take care of their customers, someone else will.

So, for those who think they need to round everything up, do it. I will let your customers know that I round down. We will see who is in business this time next year.


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Even in that case all they would have to do is adjust their prices a few cents so everything comes out to a total that rounds up.
I am guessing you have never run a retail business or worked in one. The time spent for such little profit is better spent attending your customers needs. Again, serve them well, or lose them to the competition.


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I just dont see how it would be possible. If you buy something for 20 cents and give a quarter a store isn't going to give you a dime instead.
Seriously, when is the last time you bought something for Twenty Cents that did not come out of a Gumball Machine?

Deal with real life purchases and losing five cents to the customer is not a big deal, especially when their paying cash just saved you a swipe fee.


Getting rid of the cent is a no-brainer. Getting rid of the nickel would be awkward, but not impossible. I would not do both at the same time though.
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I bring this up a lot, but there are more than a few places around here that already round cash payments down. One place in particular rounds down to the dollar (they really do not like working with change).

Why is everyone so cynical? It is sickening that so many think that "Every business is out to get us!"


Its not that theyre out to get us but that they have no interest in losing money. I do believe the rounding already happens in parts of the country, theres also part of the country like near DC where I live where no one does it. Like roll searching location will be everything for if this happens or not.


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The time spent for such little profit is better spent attending your customers needs. Again, serve them well, or lose them to the competition.


With computer pricing it wouldnt take very long to make the change. 5 cents may not be much on an individual transaction but if you sell 50k things a year thats 2500 bucks which would be more than worth the extra few hours to make the changes for an owner. Even half of that would be more than worth it.


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Seriously, when is the last time you bought something for Twenty Cents that did not come out of a Gumball Machine?


You cant even get a gumball for that but I was just using that as an example. The same thing applies to 5.20 or 10.20 or any other that ends in 20


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I would not do both at the same time though.


I definitely agree with that though I think the nickel is here to stay for a LONG time
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Well Let me put it too you this way...The Government has a lot of cleaning up its wasteful spending before worrying about pennies and nickels. If they do it before cleaning up their act it will just be more money that they would have to waste. Think about it.
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Well...one penny can be used to buy a horse ride at Meijer!! yay! now those rides are half used by little kids and half by teenagers having fun
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I think they should simply lower the mintage....think what would happen if they only minted 10,000 2014 Lincoln Cents........... :)
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Well Let me put it too you this way...The Government has a lot of cleaning up its wasteful spending before worrying about pennies and nickels. If they do it before cleaning up their act it will just be more money that they would have to waste. Think about it.


That's like an EMT saying "Don't bother to apply pressure to the wound however you can until the ambulance arrives, as they're only going to bleed out anyways."

Bzzt! Wrong solution. :-)

Every penny counts, and right now pennies (and nickels) "count" more than twice to make than their face value.
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With computer pricing it wouldnt take very long to make the change. 5 cents may not be much on an individual transaction but if you sell 50k things a year thats 2500 bucks which would be more than worth the extra few hours to make the changes for an owner. Even half of that would be more than worth it.
I can assure you, it does not work that way. Sales tax by itself really puts a kink in your plan. Sure, if people bought one item at a time. But, it never works that way. There is no possible way to guarantee that the ticket total is always going to come out to round up.

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You cant even get a gumball for that but I was just using that as an example. The same thing applies to 5.20 or 10.20 or any other that ends in 20
Right, with $5.20, you give me $5.25, I give you a dime; net sale is $5.15. I am okay with that. Your customers are going to love me.
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