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 Posted 01/25/2017  12:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cwb to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I didn't recommend anything Cwb. I asked a question.


I didn't mean to sounds harsh. I get excited when people say to drop a coin to see what it sounds like
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 Posted 01/25/2017  01:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oldmike to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry Claude ,I forgot to mention that 5 ore is the same diameter as the cent and weighs 3 grams, Hoping yours is the real deal though
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I did some research on the 5 ore coin. It is only 0.05 difference in diameter and does weigh 3.0g.
The last year of issue for them, as I understand it, was 1982.
I do not know if they were minted in a US mint or if the planchets were made at the same place that made the Lincoln Cent planchets. Knowing that may shed more light on this.
So far, it does not seem likely that this 1983-D cent was made on a 5 ore planchet.
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Admittedly I'm kind of a copper snob, really haven't paid much attention to the zcoins. They feel like play money to me!

But thanks to you, I'll be paying more attention . . Nice find
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I sent this coin to NGC to get their opinion.
They say that it is a heavily Copper plated Zinc cent.
Mint Error 2.9 Grams Graded MS-63

Other 1983 cents have recently surfaced that are extremely over weight, but are not the 95% Copper alloy. There was an article in Numismatic News this month about a collector who found a 1983-P Lincoln Cent weighing in at 3.0 grams, but shows the Zinc bubbles associated with Copper plated Zinc cents. The atricle can be read here: http://www.numismaticnews.net/artic...medium=email

I have heard of some Zinc core cents weighing as much as 3.5 grams, which is an entire gram more than the target weight of 2.5 grams.

1983 was the first year in which all Lincoln cents were to be minted on Copper plated Zinc planchets. Since the US mint doesn't make it's own planchets for the cent, I have to wonder if there could have been a mix up in the thickness of the planchets, or the plating thickness, of some of the first metal stock used to make these planchets.

Whatever the reason, this will make determining a true 95% Copper alloy transitional cent a little tougher to discern, as the weight can no longer be used as a positive indicator.

I am still waiting for the coin to be shipped back to me from NGC. When I get it, I will try to post some images of it in the NGC holder.

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Sounds like a set of calipers is a necessary tool.
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Awesome!
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Did they designate it as such on the label?
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I haven't actually seen the label yet, as the coin is still in the mail.
Here is a screen shot of the invoice:

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Yea,I'm thinking they did...cool, do keep us posted
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Nice !!
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so is this a rare find?
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I wouldn't know what kind of value it has but I'm glad you sent it in and we got answer because I had an '83 that was between 2.8 and 2.9 (I weigh all my '83's) bout a year or so ago that I kept wondering about and eventually tossed it up to a thick planchet. Can't remember if I tossed it in my reject bin or saved it tho. I'll have to look around this weekend-thanks for sharing results claude
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Awesome cwb great coin !!
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