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A Stunningly Well-Made 1907 Gold Eagle ($10) Forgery! Weight: 16.73gm!

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 Posted 10/26/2018  1:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jmwilson to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
All I asked you to do was to check your scale....

Geesh!


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 Posted 10/26/2018  2:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinworldtv to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I do not have the coin anymore.

I had to pass on it due to the fact that it is a forgery.

The weight should be correct +/- 0.01 grams.
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10/26/2018 2:11 pm
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 Posted 10/26/2018  2:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tootallious to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
I do not have the coin anymore.

I had to pass on it due to the fact that it is a forgery.




Case closed
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 Posted 10/26/2018  2:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinworldtv to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What is funny about not buying an obvious (after examination of the edge) fake coin?



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10/26/2018 2:16 pm
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 Posted 10/26/2018  2:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CaptainFwiffo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You said it was "stunningly well-made" but now it's "an obvious fake"?

Strange to claim to be helping to educate others, but then withhold the educational information.
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 Posted 10/26/2018  2:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinworldtv to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is how the edge should look, at least on this certified gold eagle:



A-Stunningly-Well-Made-1907-Gold-Eagle-$10--Forgery!-Weight:-16.73gm!



A-Stunningly-Well-Made-1907-Gold-Eagle-$10--Forgery!-Weight:-16.73gm!



A-Stunningly-Well-Made-1907-Gold-Eagle-$10--Forgery!-Weight:-16.73gm!


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10/26/2018 2:17 pm
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 Posted 10/26/2018  2:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinworldtv to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is still a well-made forgery in my opinion,

which makes it a true in this forum.

Somehow some of the "pillars" do not seem to like my contribution.






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10/26/2018 2:25 pm
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 Posted 10/26/2018  2:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tootallious to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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What is funny about not buying an obvious (after examination of the edge) fake coin?


You say that you no longer have the coin in your possession because you had to pass on it. So, how did you have the said coin in your possession in the first place if you didn't buy it? Is there a dealer out there that has that much trust in you that he lets you take possession of it without paying for it only to post it as a fake then return it to him?

I find your story to be just that, a story and nothing more. And what I find funny about is that 98% of us have called you out on it several times and NOW you tell us that you do not have the coin! That's funny! Great story!



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Perhaps if you posted this in a more mature adult manner and not a childish let's play a game manner, you would have received more positive replies! As stated by another member, Some of us are too old for such games! Especially when there isn't any educational knowledge gained, only frustration!
Edited by Tootallious
10/26/2018 2:31 pm
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 Posted 10/26/2018  2:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Alpha2814 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
These images of a certified piece are not taken at the same angle as the alleged counterfeit and there is no supporting information to clarify exactly what we should be looking at. All we have to go by is thq's assessment, and coinworldtv hasn't even said whether he agrees with that.

Again, we can't be educated by merely taking a test, we have to know what our grade is, even if it's pass/fail.
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 Posted 10/26/2018  3:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverDollar2017 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
One last time - can you explain what are the specific diagnostics from which you can tell this coin is fake?

If you want to educate us...don't just say "this coin is fake." State WHY you think it is fake. That helps all of us learn and educate others in the future.
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 Posted 10/26/2018  3:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You said it.
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 Posted 10/26/2018  3:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add edweather to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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 Posted 10/26/2018  3:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jmwilson to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have few scales that I paid about $20 for ... at various hemp shops scattered over the US. They also claim accurate to +/- 0.01 gram. Most are close, but sometimes they can be off by +/- 0.1 gram. That is what I always reference them to unworn modern coins. I then place several on the scale to check its accuracy in a given range.

Even very expensive scales have to be calibrated. The same goes for all test and measurement equipment.

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10/26/2018 3:41 pm
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 Posted 10/26/2018  3:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thq to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Maybe this would have been better received over in Precious Metals and Bullion. The purpose of forgeries like this is to dupe bullion buyers, not coin collectors. The 1907 Eagle hole in the Whitman album is an easy one to fill.
"Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
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10/26/2018 3:46 pm
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