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1944 Steel Penny I Dug Up At The River.

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 Posted 06/17/2019  12:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add joecoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Boy that's a great find! I would sell something to get enough money together to send it to PCGS. It will be worth twice as much once you get it graded by PCGS. Don't be foolish, that's a real treasure.

Stop wasting your time here and pay for a professional opinion to get the answer you want.
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Nice find, but no, it's definitely not worth getting it graded by a TPG!
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Ok so without all the extra stuff, how many think I need to send it in and how many think it's nothing... Also what about the possibility the penny was stamped on too a Belgian franc coin since the mint produced them also, that year.
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It's nothing, but honestly, no matter what, I don't think anyone here will convince you. I think you're headed toward an expensive lesson. Send it in and let us know the results.
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Wondering what the dealer said with coin in hand
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Alright then, I guess you don't wanna listen to us, even though we're 100% correct. Go ahead and learn the hard way.
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That is exactly what copper looks like when it corrodes, either in water or not. Steel on the other hand would rust until unrecognizable. It is certainly your choice on what to do with it.
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Further discussion will probably not be productive. The OP seems to be the expert.
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If it was me it would be going in a holder with the other ones I have. but that's just me
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Timgrantham992:


coop:
Interesting up grade to lady liberty.
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Well I didn't create the image. It was one I've been saving for years. Just never had a time to work it in. I completed my thought on the thread and it hit me later, to use that image. I have images that I've never used. I use them at the right time for a topic when it is the right time.
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Ok so I have 2 1944 pennies, one that weighs 2.9 and one that weighs 2.7... at the coin dealers all his coins were either 3.1 or 3.0 and the us mint says that the Weight Tolerance for that era of coins is 0.13... so based off the "facts" even a corroded penny shouldn't weigh below a 2.9... and as for my 2.9 gram I assumed it was a shell case penny but I guess I'm wrong about that also. And on a side note, according to engineering.com the corrosion will actually add weight due to the addition of oxygen molecules.... So could someone explain WHY I'm wrong instead of just being smart with me.. I like to learn how and why so I can pass the knowledge forward instead of just being a ===D like some of you guys. Thank you and God bless
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Corrosion can add weight, but when it progresses enough, portions of the coin are actually "eaten" away for lack of a better word. Now it is losing weight. It is not at all unusual for a coin to be a little light either, out of tolerance, but it does happen. Your coin just does not look like a steel cent. Steel does not develop a green "patina" it just rusts. It does appear as if the coin was in contact with a piece of iron or steel long enough for the rust from the other object to adhere to the coin causing it to have a magnetic attraction.
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Stoneman has been straight with you and provided his experience with dug cents.

You may need to send it in and get it graded to prove to your self one way or the other.
(When I read the title with "steel" & "river" in the title, I wondered how the date was even visible. 75 years in the water tends to do bad things to ferrous items.)
BTW- Everyone here would love to see the real deal pulled out of the wild and was pulling for you, but we can only share our experience and knowledge. It is up to you to determine it's value and worth to you. Also did you happen to notice the little green spot on the reverse in the image you provided? Oxidized copper showing where the exterior layer chipped off.

Nice finds on the rest of the hunt. Haven't found any silver coins myself while MD'ing. Too much iron and aluminum on the beaches here.
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Various corrosion colors suggest copper oxides, sulfides hydroxycarbonates to me. Typical of ground burial, with ancient bronze coins.

A clear ring tone may well be impeded by the thick layer of corrosion salts, and the very rough surface.

There may be a cheaper way to get it tested.
Take it to a scrap gold jewelry buyer, or a bullion dealer.
They will most probably have a hand held XRF instrument
The will probably charge a fee or they may test fro free, out of curiousity.
Give that approach a try if you wish. However, I think it will most probably turn out to be an exercise in futility.

I think a few of us here in the CCF may have an example of a '44 Belgian 2 Cents; I have one myself.
That is how the U.S. Mint was able to use the excess planchets.

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As an interesting aside, the Statue of Liberty has an iron skeleton. It had a huge corrosion problem with dissimilar metals. That is why there was such an enormous cost involved in it's restoration. I remember reading an article in the National Geographic on it.
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