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 Posted 05/29/2012  2:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add angel2004 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am waiting a bit. I ordered a few a the military set offered back a while ago and mine are supposed to ship the end of next week. I think these will be around a while but if the price of silver starts going up quickly I will order sooner than later! I have to get number 10 as well
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Personally I would sell in a heartbeat if someone wanted to overpay and just rebuild it and enjoy the profits


In that case, my price is a "kajillion bajillion" dollars.


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I'm with you for the most part, but I would think if it meant keeping or losing my house, I would sell.
I have mentioned before that I would sell the cardboard box I was living in before the coins...
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 Posted 06/06/2012  1:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add barryg to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just got my bullion version of the 2012 El Yunque from Provident Metals:

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 Posted 06/06/2012  1:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Merc Man to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply


I am certainly going to need to order one of these. I should have done it last week. Oh well!
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 Posted 06/06/2012  6:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CelticKnot to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I knew that design was going to look great in the 3" format. I guess I'll have to cave and buy the UNC.... at the exorbitant price... bleah
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 Posted 06/06/2012  7:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add angel2004 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sometimes I feel better buying when spot is a little higher. Kind of justifies the premium. I know silly but I feel better at the time at least
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 Posted 06/06/2012  7:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add barryg to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah, I didn't mind paying the $205 when silver was $35, but I refuse to pay it when silver is at $28.
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 Posted 06/06/2012  10:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add angel2004 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Exactly! That's why I don't have number 10 yet.
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 Posted 06/07/2012  02:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CelticKnot to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I guess that makes sense...sorta. Even though the price of NQ0 most likely won't decrease before sellout.

I say that to make myself feel better, because tonight in an act of wanton disregard of my credit card, I picked up puck #11. In my defense it was an impulse buy, fueled perhaps by a beer or 3 too many and tacked on to my Ag proof sets purchase (Hey, I still have the ASE sets to buy so may as well get these out of the way now).

My order was over $300 so we'll see if I get complementary upgraded shipping.

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It's a great design, I'll picking up my bullion pair later on today, they've been waiting at the PO for a couple days now. :)

Really wonder with the tiny release amounts of #11 to the APs (6,200 as of Monday), and if the Mint will even bother minting and issuing bullion in the other four designs for this year. I'll wager a bet that if they do, Volcanoes and Denali might bear some watching, as the mint to demand figure might be minuscule.
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 Posted 06/07/2012  10:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add angel2004 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I will buy just 1 of no.10 but 3 or maybe 5 of 11. The parks visited I buy for a Christmas gift for those of my kids grandkids that visited the park. An investment and something meaningful in my mind. No more cash gifts!
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 Posted 06/07/2012  3:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bizybackson to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@barryg: is that dark line on your coin between the "y" and "u" really there or is it a camera trick? It looks to be a clean DMPL coin otherwise.

Oh well, picked up my bullion pair from APMEX, $19.95 to ship two pieces of bullion in a $5.95 flat rate box with a 70 cent tracking fee, talk about tacking on overhead. They were first with these so I went with them at $158.50 each. Here's a description of what I got: on the first coin I pulled out, looked completely clean, barest trace of mint bloom or hazing (last year a couple of coins I ordered mid-run were heavily hazed from mint bloom.) Looks to be an easy 68, not fully DMPL due to the slight hazy effect and there is some kind of irregularity on the rim at 12 o'clock, I can't tell if it's from the holder or actually on the coin, but I would assign this coin an MS68. PL is pushing it, some major mint-made slide marks.

The second coin is much more satisfying: minimal bloom, relatively clean rim and much cleaner mirrors on both sides. Probably didn't come from the same tube, almost as nice as the cleanest, whitest, sharpest ATB coin I have, a Chickasaw I bought from Provident. Could be a 69DMPL, definitely PL. My plan is to order these bullion coins as they are released by the Mint, before the AP has a chance to really cherry pick through ALL of the monster boxes, and before they become traded back and forth as PMs, diminishing their future numismatic value (if any) by repeated handing of the delicate easily damaged mirrors and surfaces.
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 Posted 06/07/2012  4:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add barryg to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think it is really there, unfortunately. I don't mind, since it's only a "bullion" coin.
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I think it is really there, unfortunately. I don't mind, since it's only a "bullion" coin.


I am a bit surprised, Provident quality is usually in the outstanding catagory. If I received that coin from from them, I *might* be tempted to return it for replacement, as you have seen, not all coins are equal coming out of the same tube, even though they are "only" bullion. It could be just a grease skid as it slid down the fabric conveyor belt and easily removed with a mild solvent.

I am beginning to lean towards the bullion series more as the lackluster slow sales of the collector coin can terminate the series at any time, whereas the bullion would need an overwrite by an act of Congress to be terminated. The bullion run stands a better chance of completion and might be the more difficult of the two ATB series to complete later on due to the varying quality of the bullion coins, and the ease with which the surfaces are marred and scuffed. The collector coin is made to a standard medallic finish, encapsulated and boxed, overpriced, that most collectors are content to keep them in their OGP for the long haul, so the bullion equivalent might be scarcer of the two, 10 years later. The cool thing about this year's ATB is the mint to demand provision, which people care about on the SF ASE set, but who cares about these, as "no one's" buying them anyway. The 2012 bullion might bring far lower mintages than even the collector coin, an instance of mint to demand may work on a ignored product line and benefitting collectors that had the foresight to buy these at the height of their unpopularity. Cannot wait for #12 Chaco Culture, hope it is going to be released soon! 
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Never mind -- I just double-checked and that dark line must have been some strange reflection or shadow. The coin itself is flawless. When I get around to it, I'll take a better picture.
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