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I'm having a BAAAAAAAAD time with this coin. I bought this coin slabbed by a 'lesser' coin grading company. Nonetheless, looking at the coin, it's had every form of abuse. The 'C' is even significantly abused. But I still feel it's genuine for the one characteristic on the obverse. There is a flaw of a raised arc going from the end of her hair to her shoulders. Interestingly, this characteristic is exclusive to the 'C'. None of the other mints have this characteristic. I feel if someone would have gone to the bother of replicating the arc, they could have done a better job of repairing the 'C'. Does anyone out there think that this might be enough to admit into the 1855-C category? (If this hits the board without pics, it wasn't for lack of trying)   *** Edited by Staff to clarify topic title. Titles are important! ***Edited by shrek1957
12/19/2011 7:24 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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first I wanted to say  to this sight. I an assuming you are referring to a gold coin minted at the Charlotte mint. Is is a half or a quarter eagle? Lastly without a photo it would be hard to evaluate the coin in question. |
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I am having the worst time uploading the pics. Sorry. It is a gold dollar minted at Charlotte.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Here's a pic of a genuine 1855 Philly mint piece. Note your key diagnostic on the obverse. We're talking about a $400 coin versus a $5000 coin at the XF level. An expert in-hand authentication is required. Few genuine 1855-C G$1 exist. Many, many more counterfeits than genuine pieces are around.  |
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Rest in Peace
United States
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Along with the $3 gold coin, this is THE most counterfeited gold type. Along with it being the rare Charlotte mint, I would put money on the fact that there are more fake than genuine examples. The characteristics of the coin look right in general, but since most of the fakes were done with transfer dies, that won't tell you for sure. Die clashes are also a good indication of authenticity. Is the "arc" you speak of go from the top of the crown to the bottom strand of hair like from this Heritage auction http://coins.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleN...o=4699#Photo ? I can't tell much from those pics, but it might have a chance. |
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United States
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Yeah, even that picture makes me suspect the mint mark. I hope I'm wrong, but SEND IT IN to be sure! =)
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United States
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I've had it called a counterfeit. But ANACS didn't haven't the nerve to actually call it a counterfeit, even though they wouldn't grade it. I finally got the pics to upload, so if you scrounge around on the site, you'll see the characteristic. Sorry they aren't more clear. But can the arc be superimposed?
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Pillar of the Community
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If ANACS has seen it and refused to put it in a slab it probably isn't authentic. What did they say exactly to explain why it didn't come back in their holder?
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Rest in Peace
United States
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If ANACS wouldn't grade it then it's probably unable to be identified as coins they will authenticate coins that would never make it into an NGC or PCGS slab. You could try ICG, it's worth one more shot if you think it's genuine but just difficult to authenticate; but a no-grade from ANACS is not a very good sign.
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Generally when anacs refuses to grade a coin, they will state why. For example I once sent them a common date indian head quarter eagle that looked genuine. Anacs returned the coin in a body bag with a statement on my invoice that it was a struck counterfiet. It turned out that it was actually on a planchet of almost pure gold when it should have been onlu 90%, and thus a 1960's middle eastern counterfiet struck as an investment piece. I would call anacs and ask them why they would not grade the coin if they did not leave a notation on your invoice. I would try to get your money back from the seller, and if it was bought through ebay the anacs invoice listing it as questionable authenticity should be enough guarentee you buyer protection from ebay. |
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Posted 12/19/2011 7:17 pm
