E Pluribus Unum / In God We Trust

Not quite - the motto was placed on our coins during a very different national mindset.

The idea behind the above quotation is a modern fallacy that has been taught through the liberal/pc school system now for quite some time. If you repeat something often enough, the people are going to believe it.

Regardless of peoples' personal desires/wants/beliefs, Taking the time to study the actual history (such as peoples' writings who were there) shows a position diametrically opposed to what is generally taught today.

The ten Commandments and other Biblical references are prominently found in legislative buildings, both state and federal (getting picky here - its not a federal government - it is a national government). Among other examples in D.C., the inside of the Washington monument has Bible versus all over inside it, the Library of Congress has statues of biblical people inside as prominent fixtures, and the sessions of Congress have always been started with prayer.

These kind of things were not done by a government body who thought you could divorce religion from government. The modern media/education system has pushed falsehoods by falsification of the facts. They claim and teach that "Separation of Church and State" is in the Constitution. Read it - the phrase is not there. They also teach those words meant that religion should be totally apart from government. The physical facts prove this to not be true.

The original idea behind the concept - in context - do some research - was that the government of the US could not establish a state religion and force people into that specific church. In fact immigrants to the US of the that time period understood the meaning to be freedom to worship in the manner they personally wanted without government oppression/coercion to conform to a government's standards of worship/church attendance etc.


So where are the seeds of the phrase on our coins?

At the start of the Civil War, Samuel Chase, the then US Sec. of Treasury said:


courtesy of Wikipedia

Mr. Chase's government position is certainly indicative that "religion" was not to be divorced from government issues. We see a historical figure here affirms the previous items of architecture etc. found in D.C..




After the Civil War it was not a propaganda of any sort - but welcomed by the majority of the people who had just gone through horrible times we cannot imagine. By definition, propaganda must have a deceitful nature to it to be classified as propaganda. No deceit was intended by the addition of the motto.

History (non-pc tainted, true history ) has recorded as fact that man's ontological naturedrives mankind to see God (or a god of their choice) in times of major distress. Since the US was primarily founded on Biblical principles (again - this goes against the flow of modern education/propaganda - so read the originals from the people who were there), the name "God" was in reference to the Judeo-Christian God of the Bible.

In God we trust was a welcome statement in the newly (on paper) re-united country. There was a lot of trouble ahead, especially with reconstruction, however, the vast majority of people on both sides of the war, of their own free will, worshipped the God of the Bible. The statement was a constant reminder that in the end, if people continued with their mindset of trusting God, then the nation would once again be whole, healthy, and strong.

No, by all means, not everyone was a religious/Christian person. But it was a very hard thing to find people who did not at least acknowledge God (vs. other gods) - whether they wanted anything to do with religion or not. This changed in the early 60's when they decided kids did not need to be taught the 10 Commandments and a basic set of morals anymore. Welcome to the resultant society.

No, a religion is not to be dictated by government, but the people behind this motto being established on our money were doing it as a reminder that when Biblical morals (honesty, ethical treatments of fellow man, not murdering, not stealing, not lying, etc. etc.) are omitted from government, the nation rots from within.




I am not insinuating you meant the term superstitious as a derogatory term. However, in light of history and science, the term superstition is a little out of context. But that is not for this forum.

It is to your credit you choose to accept differences of opinion rather than being hostile against them. This is what America is about.

Is my former life as a teacher showing again

Just Carl forgot to add his usual

Or maybe he meant the whole country on a dime.

I used to always say "how can a country have freedom of religion , then make you spend money that has "In god we trust " written all over it ". The same crooked goverment but amazing country with oppportunities that we live in.

There's always religious people on this web site. Please understand. I don't know what the site moderator would do about this, but please don't write this.

These words don't bother me any. As far as I am concerned they are part of the coin and history. I bet if you gave a coin quiz to the general public about each coin out there circulated in America and have questions concerning what is all on a specific coin, the vast majority of people would flunk it badly. I don't think people in general know what for the most part is on a typical coin, nor do they care. What they care about is what it is worth.

Good point. Here's the comparisons:

1800 $1.00 was worth $1.00 (baseline) In Gold We Trust

1864 $1.00 was worth $1.08 In God We Trust debuts. Not bad, 8% deflation, including two wars, or 0.125% a year.

1934 $1.00 was worth $1.32 In God We Trust in name, but In Gold We Trust in fact. Panic, World War, Great Depression, 24% deflation in 70 years, or 0.34% a year.

2004 $1.00 was worth $0.09 In God We Trusted, another 70 years later and our money has lost 91% of its value plus 134 years of gains, or 1.34% inflation a year.

Guess what I trust? Starts with Go, ends in d. Has an L in there somewhere.

I am not a "godly" man by any means, I believe but not to the fanatical extent, that said I also think that when our country was founded the belief in a greater power was obvious and the governments fight to stop those who opposed that belief was clearly evident (witch hunts, etc). The individuals right to belive in God should not be hindered but with all due respect putting words on coinage that everyone will use and could offend a small minority still should be respected. It's funny to read the verse that says:
"King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows."

Yet with this stated we put that motto on the thing it talks about. Just my 2 cents worth! (that darn money thing again)