E Pluribus Unum / In God We Trust

The "IGWT" doesn't bother me at all-I like it. Also I like EPU

But I agree with Real Metal!

I agree. A big reason why I have yet to start building a date-mint Presidential dollar set.

My only contribution to the discussion on IGWT, for what it is worth, is that Teddy Roosevelt was against its use. An interesting point-of-view and worth reading.

I think the dead Prez on the coin politicizes it much more!

In God we Trust is an absolute must to me, I like the latin, but I wouldn't be all that upset if it wasn't there. In God we Trust is essential. The beauty of that phrase is it may be interpreted in many ways, It doesn't say "In Christ we Trust" or "In Allah we Trust" It says "In God we Trust". The idea that the phrase's mere existence is hindering someones religious freedom is just absurd. And simply removing our motto to please a miniscule minority of atheists and agnostics just makes no sense to me. As some non-believers have said it doesn't bother them. That's just my opinion, ideally I like having them both, though.

Considering that In God We Trust was inserted as propaganda at the tail end of the Civil War, I'd say of the two mottoes it is the most eyebrow raising. But I'd say that those eyebrows should have been raised one hundred and fifty years ago. Now it has become tradition. Let's not kid ourselves, however, folks, generations of Americans have routinely failed at establishing and maintaining the type of country the founders spelled out in the Constitution, especially in regards to equality, protection from government tyranny, and the establishment of religion. It's not that there should be no role for religion and religious people in America, just that we were supposed to run civil discourse without it being a factor.

Eh, we're only human. Human beings make mistakes.

With the passage of National Defense Authorization Act 2012 (NDAA 2012) signed into law quietly on New Year's Eve by our President. They now have legally on paper the ability to arrest Americans without charge and imprison them indefinitely without trial or even access to an attorney. And as anyone with a little knowledge of history knows, once any government has the ability to disappear their enemies the country becomes a dictatorship and police state in a fairly short amount of time. E PLURIBUS UNUM and IN GOD WE TRUST may just be replaced
soon anyways.

Oddly enough with all the computerazation today, it would be smart to educate people as to how it all works by using our coins for that system.
Of course the problem comes up with where on the coins.


Imagine trying to fit The United States of America on a Dime. And with the date as 11111011100.
I wonder if Transalvania would have a Vampire for the obverse instead of a dead President.

Yes! We've had enough dead Presidents on coins. Return to Standing, Sitting, Walking Liberty. How about more Native Americans? Wildlife too.




Isn't it on it already?