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Which Is The Real 1921 Peace Dollar?

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B's strike does not match a genuine 1921 high relief around Liberty's nose, mouth, and philtrum so it's a fake.

A's "TRVST." and reverse more closely matches post-1921 Peace dollars. I lean towards that it's fake, too -- unless it's a "medium relief" 1921 but I haven't actually seen one of those, myself, so I have no basis to judge.
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This is probably a trick question
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There is no trick question.

One is magnetic, and has a weight of 17.2 Grams.

The other is not magnetic and has a weight of 26.7 Grams. Neither one has been graded but one is real.
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Ok, I will guess the magnetic one is fake!
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Here is what I get when I overlay A (in green) and B (in purple) onto a pic of a PCGS 1921 Peace dollar while making sure the L in LIBERTY is aligned and sized properly:


Which-Is-The-Real-1921-Peace-Dollar?

Which-Is-The-Real-1921-Peace-Dollar?

It looks like B is a fake.

If A also is a copy, then whoever made it has greatly improved their work
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Nice job Earle42, I'm going with "A" as the real one!
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B looks fake to me - strike is too strong and uniform for a Peace dollar and the "wear" appears to be struck rather than natural.
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A is fake, B is real.
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No matter what the results are to this quiz, its gotta be concerning that the community is divided on what is real and what isn't........
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well we are going based on photos, which is only 1/2 the picture
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Look at the Mountains on the reverse. A clearly has the rev of 1922. And B has the reverse of 1921. They are very distinct. There are other diagnostics but that one is all that is necessary.
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Here is an image I borrowed from Heritage Auctions.

They always have the greatest pics.

This might help choose the real coin.

I think it's all in the feet (talons).

Which-Is-The-Real-1921-Peace-Dollar?

Which-Is-The-Real-1921-Peace-Dollar?

Which-Is-The-Real-1921-Peace-Dollar?
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Look at the Mountains on the reverse. A clearly has the rev of 1922. And B has the reverse of 1921. They are very distinct.


Could you elaborate on this a bit more. Peace dollars are not my specialty to say the least. As I'm sure a lot of members could benefit, could you point out the diagnostics your referring to?
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I thought I would go back and check the reverses by overlaying the images. The problem was that A's REV pic/strike is weak enough I cannot see if it lines up well - getting the correct size is also hard.

However, I was surprised that B's REV can be made to align very well.

So I will really stick my neck out here and say A's OBV pic is of a legit dollar, however, A's REV is a pic of a fake. B's OBV pic is of a fake, but B's Rev pic is of a legit dollar.

I also noticed that either A's REV had a problem with its strike and the letters are more mushed (especially the O in OF) which is all wrong compared to the Heritage pic. Some of the Eagle's details appear o be off also such as where his neck meets his back - but this could be the relative (when compared to the Heritage pic) fuzziness of the pic also.




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