Fake £1

ok...Let me know if these are easier than the overlays.
(I know they're not great on the eyes after a minute or two but show the differenced better than the overlays, especially subtle ones like C6 & C6.2)

Controls
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L4 & L4.2 = MATCH


L9 & L9.2 = MATCH



C6 & C6.2 = Possibly retouch ?

COMPARISONS
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L1.2 & L9


L1.2 & C6 vs L1.2 & C6.2


L1.2 & L4


L4 & L9


L4 & C6 vs L4 & C6.2


L9 & C6 vs L9 & C6.2

DOH... A fossil left behind from my old naming system, which somehow managed to name everything .jpg, which annoyingly links fine on my computers copy of the site but breaks on the live site if the link is to .jpg

I've got some tidying up of the images to do, I noticed a duplicated coin with a different motto and a tick where it should've been a cross the other day, (edit: Just noticed POSSAQ & POSSAR are not what they're supposed to be... They're actually 1998 Arms' not 1993.. How I did that I don't know !!)
and I've still got to update the weights and images of my collection (eventually).

I'd love to show the whole motto in depth for each coin but just stitching one together takes enough time,
without having to actually take the images with the microscope. (I asked Andy how he does his but haven't heard back yet.. I assume he's still in China)

I think it's great how much detail the scans show, even if it annoys me that 6 & 6.2 aren't identical (I notice the teardrop pendant has been enlarged in 6.2!)
It took a lot more work to get these right than it did the shields (Flat edge helps immensely) I lost so much detail in some of them by rotating by .2' at a time to get it as close as I could that I ended up having to restart with a higher quality image and use bigger increments !!lol

P.s My theory on the obv of the Personalised £2 Lani coin being the same as that of the Mary Rose fakes may have got a puncture before it got off the starting grid. Will hopefully find out within a couple of days :)

Also.. I see she is still trying to peddle this fake... http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1-coin-mi...181762817767
I offered her £3 posted over a month ago and she never replied. Looks to be the same reverse as the hoard, & EGYPTIAN 8.2 & 9.2

OK... a little digression now.

Got this on ebay a few weeks ago:

The same seller now has another:

Mine is of very similar dimensions to genuine coins but I suspect it's a rare-alloy fake for the following reasons.

1. The rims are thinner than on all genuine £1 I compared it with, old and new. Though they look symmetrical and professional.

2. Compared with some aged, worn £1 coins the metal is less shiny and more coppery-tinged, see below. Sorry my colours not at all faithful, it is in fact very close to the outers of aged £2 coins, but ever so slightly pinker.

3. As you can see, it has reeding but no inscription, whereas (thanks andyg) Royal Mint would generally have inscription only on a blank planchet. Reeding is fine and well-compressed if faint.

However I haven't found a match to any off-colour fake series. I've checked through the rare alloy series on http://www.coinauthentication.co.uk...ndfiles.html but nothing seems to fit all the above features. Any ideas?

Nice.
I think I've noticed the coin before on ebay.

I did initially think maybe it was a vending disc, not dissimilar to my two, but the colour although different,
is fully acceptable 'over the counter' and the milling would be pointless for a vending machine (Makes me wonder about my disc2 which has quite coarse milling!)

Coinauthentication keeps on giving huh!! It's something I read through a while back, probably 4 yrs ago, but never worked my way through to the page you linked & therefore subsequent pages. (Nice to be able to attribute Thistle2 as a Type LA)

Your expertise on this kind of thing way outstrips mine I'm afraid.
(BTW Is it worth ordering a back issue of D.j.Canes article or is the info contained here - http://www.boffey.info/tonybof/coin...uk_fakes.htm )

BTW Picked up a new Flax fake this morning. Motto matches current ones 2, 3 & 6, but the year is 1986. Making 3 years, 86, 87 & 89 all using the same rev die and motto design. It's an easy one to match to other designs too, I'll have to look later.

I just got this example in my change. While the edge lettering looks OK, there is something about the font of the text on the obverse and reverse that just looks off. Plus, there is something about the incised regions of the crown and the details of the eyes that just look wrong to me. Any thoughts?

It's definitely a fake.
The obv looks a lot like this one, although mine looks more beat up.
At least yours is paired with the correct reverse, although technically the obv is from the Royal Arms £1 released in smaller numbers earlier in 2008 before the design change.



Where did you get it ? and is it possible for some pics of the motto ?

OK, so is this crazy or what?: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RARE-ERRO...p=true&rt=nc

Who would bid up to £78 for an 'error' £2 visibly with the wrong size milling, a portrait more like the Queen Mother and wrong obverse font to boot?

Even real strike and flan errors don't normally get much over £50.

If it were a genuinely hard to find, vintage fake then I COULD understand it.

Apologies if I've missed these, but I see there are some 2015 dated circles of technology fakes (£2) with the same portrait.