Coin Community Family of Web Sites Join Thousands of Coin, Bullion, & Money Collectors
Join Thousands of Coin, Bullion, & Money Collectors Royal Canadian Mint products, Canadian, Polish, American, and world coins and banknotes. Coin, Banknote and Medal Collectors's Online Mall Royal Estate Auctions - $1 Coin Auctions300,000 items to help build your collection! Specializing in Modern Numismatics Vancouvers #1 Coin and Paper Money Dealer








Username:
Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?


This page may contain links that result in small commissions to keep this free site up and running.

Welcome Guest! Registering and/or logging in will remove the anchor (bottom) ads. It's Free!

Is This 1880-S Morgan Dollar Proof Like?

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.
Author Previous TopicReplies: 16 / Views: 2,942Next Topic
Page: of 2
New Member
numiswizard's Avatar
United States
22 Posts
 Posted 07/08/2012  8:37 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add numiswizard to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1880-S-Morg..._2174wt_1164

It looks like it can be, but due to the lack of designation, I think treading with caution would be the best bet. Does it look Proof like as the seller claims?
Bedrock of the Community
IndianGoldEagle's Avatar
United States
36785 Posts
 Posted 07/08/2012  8:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It could be, it's a nice coin. It's not a DMPL but could have some proof-like characteristics. Not sure when PCGS started putting PL designation on it's holders.
Pillar of the Community
shadowtrooper78's Avatar
United States
1370 Posts
 Posted 07/08/2012  8:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add shadowtrooper78 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
obverse could be as the seller claims....it's hard to tell. However even if the obverse is PL it still would not receive a PL designation. The obverse and reverse need to be PL in order to receive that designation.
Pillar of the Community
D0ubl3Eagle's Avatar
United States
5854 Posts
 Posted 07/08/2012  8:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add D0ubl3Eagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

The obverse may be PL but I don't think the reverse is.
Pillar of the Community
Canadian-Banknotes's Avatar
Canada
4944 Posts
 Posted 07/08/2012  8:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Canadian-Banknotes to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is very hard to tell with pictures like that.

If you are looking for a 1880-S PL Morgan, don't just buy the first coin you see. This coin is very common in higher grades, and quite a few can be found in PL and DMPL at reasonable prices.
New Member
numiswizard's Avatar
United States
22 Posts
 Posted 07/08/2012  9:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numiswizard to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree, but it's still a pretty neat coin if it goes cheap enough. I'll put my bid in and see what happens. The seller seems pretty confident it may be undergraded, do you guys think it may have a shot at upgrade?
New Member
United States
20 Posts
 Posted 07/08/2012  11:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FullLibertyCoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No, that coin is not PL. The lighting is playing a trick, but it appears to have full luster. I would be certain this would never make it in to a PL holder. And I think the reverse would keep it from upgrading or CAC'ing.
Pillar of the Community
D0ubl3Eagle's Avatar
United States
5854 Posts
 Posted 07/08/2012  11:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add D0ubl3Eagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I highly doubt this will upgrade. Looks like a 64+ to a very low end 65. IMO, I think this coin has a greater chance of downgrading than upgrading.
Edited by D0ubl3Eagle
07/08/2012 11:50 pm
Pillar of the Community
smokeriderdon's Avatar
United States
3755 Posts
 Posted 07/09/2012  7:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add smokeriderdon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Its a beautiful coin number one. Number 2, who gives a rats butt if it would get a useless green wart?

But to the point, hardly PL. I see nothing at all reflective in any of those pics. But, as I said, its a beautiful lady.

An MS65 is valued at 200, so its getting close. With 9 bids and still 4 days to go and at 130, I would guess it will go over value. Personally I would take it up to value, but certainly not over.
Rest in Peace
dave700x's Avatar
United States
10625 Posts
 Posted 07/09/2012  7:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is what it is. A Morgan graded MS65 in a rattler is most likely an MS65. If you want a PL move on to one that is. There are plenty out there.
Bedrock of the Community
basebal21's Avatar
13014 Posts
 Posted 07/09/2012  7:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
It is what it is. A Morgan graded MS65 in a rattler is most likely an MS65. If you want a PL move on to one that is. There are plenty out there.


Agreed, if they really think its a 66 or a pl they would have resubmitted it themselves
Moderator
Learn More...
SsuperDdave's Avatar
United States
23522 Posts
 Posted 07/09/2012  8:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't think it makes 66 - too much chatter in the fields - and it's at market right now. Me, I'd move on to the next coin.
Pillar of the Community
Indian1's Avatar
United States
3640 Posts
 Posted 07/10/2012  09:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Indian1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here is the list:
SL - Satin Like
SPL
PL
DPL
DMPL

I have a copy of a printout somewhere that I used
to measure the reflectivity on my morgans over the years.
It had backwards written text in different size fonts and
instructions on what type of lighting to use and how high above the coin it was placed. Then a gauge to check the distance in inches that one with normal eyesight could read the print. Now I have to find it :) NGC and PCGS do not concur with one another on the distances for
PL and up. Best I had heard of was a morgan at 12"
New Member
numiswizard's Avatar
United States
22 Posts
 Posted 07/13/2012  3:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numiswizard to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
it's almost over and I put my max bid in so we'll see if it's a good deal when I get it, if I win it.
Rest in Peace
dave700x's Avatar
United States
10625 Posts
 Posted 07/13/2012  9:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
did you get it?
Valued Member
RJP's Avatar
United States
105 Posts
 Posted 07/14/2012  02:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RJP to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice coin and I agree with all here, Not a PL.
Rattlers have that on the grade if it is PL or DMPL
Both sides need to qualify for either designation.
Bob
  Previous TopicReplies: 16 / Views: 2,942Next Topic
Page: of 2

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.



    




Disclaimer: While a tremendous amount of effort goes into ensuring the accuracy of the information contained in this site, Coin Community assumes no liability for errors. Copyright 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Family- all rights reserved worldwide. Use of any images or content on this website without prior written permission of Coin Community or the original lender is strictly prohibited.
Contact Us  |  Advertise Here  |  Privacy Policy / Terms of Use

Coin Community Forum © 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Forums
It took 0.4 seconds to rattle this change. Forums