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Bank Of Canada 1912-14 Gold Coin Special RCM Release

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 Posted 11/28/2012  6:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add That Canadian Guy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I broke down and bought a 1914 $5.

So has the mint set aside a set number of each date and denomination or are they just selling whatever until they reach their goal of 30,000?
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 Posted 11/28/2012  7:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RogerD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just crunching some numbers here, total Canadian gold coins minted from 1912 to 1914 is 659,693 now the EFA is going to melt (215,000) 32.6% of the mintage numbers, left over is 444,693 assuming more have not been melted.

Surviving coins from the EFA of the 1914 $5 dollar variety if they held 1/3rd of the mintage then they hold 10145 coins. Stated in the news release they are planning on keeping 12.2% of all these coins to sell to the public. That means 1217 may be sold during this offering in differing grades.

Minus the 294 hand picked premium coins, 1217-294= 923 of the $500 coins.

Melted 1914 $5 coins could reach 8927 on this basis, 31122-8927= 22,197 surviving.
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 Posted 11/28/2012  7:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add canuck1us to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks CC-Ottawa for the packaging information.
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 Posted 11/28/2012  7:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add canuck1us to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I wonder which of the mint staff or personnel select and judge into which category the coins fall.

Just thinking in general that sometimes an AU-55 coin looks "nicer" than a MS-60 coin.

If the selecting is not being conducted by experienced graders, are buyers taking a chance by paying for the "premium" coins?
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 Posted 11/28/2012  7:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add canadian_coins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I broke my promise and placed an order for the hand-selected $5 1914.

At today's gold price, this coin has 416.56 USD in gold. Not bad at all.

This is quite shocking for those who might have paid a lot more through dealers. What else is lurking in those vaults?

So... what sort of grades are we expecting here?
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 Posted 11/28/2012  7:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Amaths to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It would be difficult to speculate if the 1914 $5 will remain the "rarest", which appears to be a safer bet. According to J&M, the mintage are:
$5
1912 165,680 25.12%
1913 98,832 14.98%
1914 31,122 4.72%
$10
1912 74,759 11.33%
1913 149,232 22.62%
1914 140,068 21.23%

Total 659,693 100.00%

RCM holds ~245,000 of them and is going to melt ~215,000. That leaves ~444,693 survived. Assume that the percentages remain the same, which is nearly impossible, after the meltdown, the new distribution would be:
$5
1912 111,690 25.12%
1913 66,626 14.98%
1914 20,980 4.72%
$10
1912 50,397 11.33%
1913 100,602 22.62%
1914 94,424 21.23%

Total ~444,693 100.00%

Just for fun :)
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 Posted 11/28/2012  7:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stampking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As I said, this is not a bad deal for 1994 $5. Also I recommend to keep the original invoice/receipt from RCM. It is a proof that you catch up with this history of RCM and Bank of Canada.
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 Posted 11/28/2012  7:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BiBo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I will pass this time. They are not pure gold.
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 Posted 11/28/2012  7:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add canadian_coins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I was tempted to get all - but my wife would kill me.

She just found out I bought the $5 1914
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 Posted 11/28/2012  7:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stampking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
To: canadian_coins

I have the same concern with you. LOL
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 Posted 11/28/2012  7:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add darryldarryl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Shipping will begin at the end of January!
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To: canadian_coins

I have the same concern with you. LOL
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 Posted 11/28/2012  7:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BiBo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply


I will ask my wife to buy it for me instead.

In return, I will buy her a nice X-mas gift.

Both are happy.
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 Posted 11/28/2012  7:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add darryldarryl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@RogerD

Please explain how this event will make the coins more elusive.
30,000 extra coins will soon be in the maket place including the 3 that I purchased today.
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 Posted 11/28/2012  7:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jerry_B to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
I will ask my wife to buy it for me instead.

In return, I will buy her a nice X-mas gift.

Both are happy.


Now there's a wise man!

I discussed the matter with my better half before ordering.
She was all for it!
She likes shiny things
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