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 Posted 01/07/2013  2:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinsKelly to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I believe at this point the OP is planning on getting it certified which will answer any and all questions.

My fingers and toes crossed for you, rob oz!
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 Posted 01/07/2013  9:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Canadian-Banknotes to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not sure about the rules about posting links to other forums, but this coin is being discussed over there as well.

http://www.cointalk.com/t220174/
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 Posted 01/07/2013  9:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You might not want to read that thread...a few of those guys weren't exactly modest or polite.
To CCF's credit--people were welcoming and helpful here.
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 Posted 01/07/2013  9:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Canadian-Banknotes to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah, I noticed that. Their forum is quite different from ours.
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 Posted 01/07/2013  9:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add smokeriderdon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I left that site because I was targeted by at least one moderator and was fed up with their attitudes. There are a few decent individuals there, but on the whole this place is much better.
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 Posted 01/07/2013  9:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinsKelly to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
On a different topic, when are you planning sending it in rob oz?

I remember reading a thread here a while ago and I thought to myself I would not purchase that particular coin. SsuperDdave aptly pointed out, "No guts, no glory". The bottom line is if you feel the risk is within reason and you have backed it up with some sort of support (in your case here a dealer friend), then bully to you for taking a chance. I am risk adverse and while I actually prefer my coins not slabbed, there are coins I would not dream of purchasing without plastic around them. And yes, I break them out, but that is my choice.

So I say now, bully for you and now my fingers, toes and hubby's fingers are crossed for you!
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 Posted 01/07/2013  9:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Windchild to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@Smokeriderdon

I looked at that forum before looking here....
I found the attitudes to be something I wouldn't put up with...

So I looked for another forum, found CCF, and haven't thought of it since
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 Posted 01/07/2013  9:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mds308 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
In the words of BadThad: How did I miss this thread? Once again, great post, great responses and great learning experiences. This is the best coin forum. Period.

rob oz, I wish you all the best with this coin. Please keep us posted.
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This forum was founded because of Bobby and Susan being treated similarly at Coin Talk. I make no judgment except to observe that I haven't posted there in probably six years, and only one of the two is growing at the consistent rate we're growing.

It's simple. At Coin Community, you live by the Golden Rule or you get shown the door.
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 Posted 01/07/2013  10:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
To be fair...nobody is twisting my arm here to make me behave like an adult either.
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 Posted 01/07/2013  10:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rob oz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Rob, I'm still thinking it's real, but, counterfeiters are really, really good these days and at times you need high power microscopes to detect problem coins. This may be the case in this instance.


I Believe it is real too. Leave it to me to go for a coin like this. LOL.


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SEND IT IN


OKAY!


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I noticed the die clash in the perfect spot to the right of the eagles left wing and have never seen a counterfeit with that.


Is that die clash specific to one of the VAMs/dies?


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89cc for $450 a few towns over from me but that one definitely looked "off" (china 9 I believe)


What's china 9?


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Sorry to get off subject, just wanted to let you know you sparked a stronger interest in this subject for me


I'm glad I could help.


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I will just add that it has that correct look with the frost so much associated with Comstock silver ;) I wish you luck! Let us know.


I know, right? It's frosty like the 3 slabbed CC's I have. It looks SO REAL.


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I probably should have explained myself earlier but I mentioned the crack by the E in America partly because I haven't found any mention of a die crack at that location on genuine examples yet. Though I can't be entirely sure from the first pics, it seems to have a mushy appearance which I remember learning can happen to fine details like die cracks during the transfer die process.


Is a die crack something that doesn't usually appear of counterfeits? It doesn't seem mushy on my end. I can see it without the loupe.


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Here I've cobbled together this coin against reverses A-E from the Anacs article.


Thanks for posting that up.


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I believe at this point the OP is planning on getting it certified which will answer any and all questions. My fingers and toes crossed for you, rob oz!


Thank you.


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Not sure about the rules about posting links to other forums, but this coin is being discussed over there as well.


Indeed. I was curious to see if anyone else had any other info that may not have been stated here that could shed some light.


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You might not want to read that thread...a few of those guys weren't exactly modest or polite


It was a waste of time for the most part. Just downright rude.


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To CCF's credit--people were welcoming and helpful here


Credit and then some. I've been around on many forums... Cars, computers, graphic design.... CCF was my first coin forum... I can honestly say that this is the first forum where I was glad to have come to. The discussion was on track. Peoples replied in a matter that actually tried to shed some light. though the biggest thing, I really feel like people are truly genuine in what they say here at CCF. I;m not saying that just to say it, I was actually thinking it last night.


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I left that site because I was targeted by at least one moderator and was fed up with their attitudes. There are a few decent individuals there, but on the whole this place is much better.


I could see that. We only got like 1 or 2 pages in before it all went haywire. Where on page 7 here at CCF and all 7 pages are informational and helpful... Not filled with nonsense.


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On a different topic, when are you planning sending it in rob oz?


Hopefully soon. I called PCGS earlier on my lunch break just to see what the prices were and get familiar with the whole process to sending it out. There is a PCGS dealer in my area and I'd like to talk with him to see what he thinks and or has to say about the coin. Though he's by appointment only I believe.


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I remember reading a thread here a while ago and I thought to myself I would not purchase that particular coin. SsuperDdave aptly pointed out, "No guts, no glory". The bottom line is if you feel the risk is within reason and you have backed it up with some sort of support (in your case here a dealer friend), then bully to you for taking a chance.
I've always been somewhat of a rebel but not necessarily a high risk taker. I tossed around the Idea of what if's in my head. What if it's real? What if it's fake. I just said, what the hey.... Just go for it and see what happens. So here I am. LOL.


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rob oz, I wish you all the best with this coin. Please keep us posted.


Thanks and I will. Not gonna leave you guys hanging.

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 Posted 01/07/2013  11:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NathanASE to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I just read through that entire thread on the "other forum" and I can of believe how rude they were with you...
That was completely ridiculous... Only a few people actually offered any kind of explanation to their comments.. Everyone else must work for PCGS etc. because they all are apparently experts with 2 photos and no close ups.... Wait... No....
The one that "had the biggest problem" with it was just full of ... And was proven wrong about the "fake" he posted in the end.. Amongst other things.. He seemed more about wanting to brag about the "4 he's owned"... I think he was just jealous... Lol and obviously has no idea what he's talking about.
I almost registered there just to make one post... Ever... But somehow held my tongue... I'm mad for you... That was completely uncalled for on alot of their parts...
I'm truly sorry you had to go through that, and I think you handled yourself very well.... I probably would have lost my composure and been kicked off the site...
Sorry, ranting/venting... That truly got me angry... But anyways definitely keep us posted! And as all have mentioned our fingers are crossed for you!
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Lol Nathan, sending it in to be graded really was by far and away the most helpful reply in that thread
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I just read through that entire thread on the "other forum" and I can of believe how rude they were with you...

It was uncalled for. That's why I was hesitant to post the price I paid or where I bought it... Cause I KNEW that it would skew their perception instead of just looking at the coin itself with nothing to influence.. Though I did post craigslist and then came the onslot.


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I'm truly sorry you had to go through that, and I think you handled yourself very well.... I probably would have lost my composure and been kicked off the site..


Believe me, I wanted to say something but decided I'm not gonna stoop to that level. Then there would be 10 pages of useless info instead. That's his opinion and he's entitled to it. The manner in which is was portrayed was uncalled for but whatever.


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Lol Nathan, sending it in to be graded really was by far and away the most helpful reply in that thread


What about the mention of REEDING?
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Here's a 1889cc with the "china 9" it's just a known fake variety.. And a bad one at that.. You can just see how the 9 looks way off compared to a real one.
89-CC-Morgan
And the die clash I've just seen in quite a few Morgan's, (looking at the reverse of the coin to the right of the middle of the eagles wing, connecting to the top of the wreath) its a portion of the back of liberty's head thats visible on the reverse, if you look at the shape and flip the coin you will see that it lines up perfect, looks like it was punched through. I honestly don't know enough about them to elaborate further, I just don't ever recall seeing a counterfeit with one, though I could very well be wrong... Here's a pic of one of my CC's with it where it's a bit more apparent so you can see what I'm talking about and compare to yours... Although like I said, it could be meaningless but it through me off....
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