Modern Proof Maria Theresa Thaler?

"On the two dots in the center shield. I actually haven't read any documentation that confirms why they are there. I have always assumed they were a means to assist telling genuine Vienna coins from foreign made ( prior to 1935) counterfeits"

I've often wondered the same thing I have an H60 which has 3 dots.

A typo:

I can't see/understand that 4 alphabets (which is the key point to make this coin worthwhile) so I can't say anything about that.

Pretty good going. Its a Paris mint 1st variety strike, Unfortunately the photo isn't clear the word is "Aden" As Henry has pointed out the importance, for me is the concurrence of the date, place and the base coin. Paris mint coins were often sold to Antonin Besse and Co of Aden ( the Donald Trump of that region). Even if they weren't sold to that company they would often enter the middle east region via Aden.

This high concurrence is very rarely seen with any of the more popular expensive counter strikes. The provenance of the coin. It was confiscated from a German POW by a British sgt. It seems most likely it was counterstamped by that Sgt( or for him) then later it was traded to an American soldier.

Its value? I am sure I over paid for it.....but for me it is far more valuable, in numismatic terms, than that Fake double counterstamped coin. The disappointing thing is some idiot is going to pay a lot for that fake Counterstamped coin which doesn't have a story like the beat up example I have posted!

Just to clarify: the coin is best described as a war souvenir. The counter mark "Aden 1944" is not official, and both Aden and the Date were added at the same time. The heat damage to the coin and the crude way the counter-mark was struck points to a military workshop or similar. Aden was an important commercial and military( as it is for the USA Military today) Hub for the British in the 1940s. The counter mark was added using individual punches. It seems to me that most likely the coin was heated for the purposes of adding the counter-mark. The fact that the "44" has been crudely double struck combined with the known history of the coin suggests it may be a one off production or alternately one of a very small number of such coins. Collector-wise the coin is probably not particularly valuable but in numismatic terms the coin tells a story that fits very tidily with the history of the 1935 - 1941 non Vienna striking of the MTT. It also, IMHO, points to the shocking damage to the field of numismatics that fake counter-marks on MTTs cause. In the 1970s at least one expert was stating how useful counter-marks on MTTs were for identifying minting period and variety Unfortunately the opposite is the case as more often than not counter-marks are found on base coins that were not produced until long after the date range the counter-marks are supposed to have been produced. I know many dealers love the counter-marked MTTs as they they appreciate in value quickly and always have a ready market. I have no proof but as the numbers of counter-stamped MTT in the market seem to be increasing, I believe somewhere someone is faking countermarkd MTT on a regular basis. I would warn any collector to be very careful with Hedjaz, Negd, Djubuti, Pemba, and Mozambique coutermarks as odds are 90-99% of the examples seen in the market are modern fakes.

Thats a nice example. You have identified it correctly nice photos of the edge

wonghinghi- Great, early MTT!

Hello members, this is my newly acquired MTT restrike and I post the pictures for you to identify.

Spcifications: 27.76 grams, 40.6mm

The saltire of this coin tells it is either a Milan or early Venice type. The greatest hint is the number of pearls (6) on the diadem , so it is likely to be a Hafner 37b (1817-33) species. Most of the Milan types at the same time fame have 7 pearls on the diadem.

There is a defect of planchet at the 5 o'clock position and the lower weight 27.76 might be due to the deprive of metal at that position.

Any further opinion is welcome!

I picked up three new MTTs today. I have tried to identify the coins in the past but I can't get started. Could someone help me please? As far as I can measure, all are 40 mm.

1 is 28.08 g
2 is 28.01 g
3 is 27.98 g