Ebay. Lend A Little Help Please.

Mixing up clad proofs and silver proofs is possible. The silver ones have slightly different fields and will tone differently, but for the most part are indistinguishable other than their edge. If somebody either doesn't know this or was a bit careless, the surfaces will be similar to all, but the most trained eye. The fact that he accused you of scamming him is unfortunate of course, but doesn't necessarily imply he tried to scam you. He probably did not think he made the mistake and the silver proofs are more expensive.




This last 2012 extended holiday season was the worst I've ever seen. Buying, several coins weren't shipped to me and some others were not as described. Selling, more unpaid items, buyer's remorse returns, and general rudeness and problems than I've ever experienced.

When I got back into collecting in early 2008 after inheriting my Dad's collection I needed to finish the modern stuff - he had just stopped about 1986. I bid and won a number of auctions over about 6 months for the proof sets I needed, looked at them and put them up until I got some Eagle brand albums to display them in out of their boxes but still in their lens. I noticed my latest silver quarters set didn't look right, popped the lens to look at the edges of the coins and lo and behold, they were all clad proofs in a silver proof lens! Emailed the seller on it and he refunded me after I sent that set back. A couple of weeks later I thought to check all of my others (Ok, so I'm slow) and of the 5 silver proof sets that I had purchased from him over the last 6 months, all of them had had the silver proofs replaced with clad! He denied everything and too much time had now passed for ebay to help. He had a 99.9 percent positive feedback with over 10,000 sales, but I can't believe every silver set he sold me had the silver changed out without him being aware of it.

Did the seller have anything written on the 2x2's?

It is true that his ad says silver. Nowhere is clad mentioned but I looked at his feedback and all his buyers give him really good feedback. A 100% positive feedback is hard to maintain as a seller on ebay. At this point I would contact him and I believe it will come down to him having made a mistake, not trying to rip you off and he will rectify the problem. Did you try and contact him before you put this post on the Forum? I've been dealing on ebay for over ten years both as a buyer and seller and have only had a shipping problem once in all that time and that was my fault as a seller. Never had to go to the resolution center. As a seller I fix the problem ASAP and dont wait to the last day.

Just my thoughts

edgman

I see he has a 14 dayreturn period also. Did you try to contact him through the ebay messages. That's the only way to do it. Then they have copies of your email to him. Its good that you contacted ebay if he didn't get back to you after 5 messages. He did say he would get back to anyone within 24 hours. As a seller I think that's kind of stupid to put in your descriptions. Leave yourself open to problems saying that if you get sick, etc. Anyway you did everything right so far and your protected. No one likes to get the wrong stuff but I think yours will probably be taken care of to your advantage.


edgman

Maybe he's playing the odds that most wouldn't noice since theres a lot of uneducated buyers out there...

you kind of make my point with your response. I was only half kidding when I typed what I did... but you are taking this whole thing way too seriously. what's that quarter worth? a couple of bucks? do you see other members of this community starting threads like this and going nuts over a couple of bucks?

also, it's uncool to type things like: "idk why your a jerk for."

embedded in my post was good information. the point of my post was to explain to you that you were making a mountain out of a molehill.

cc99999, he said he did it as a precaution to protect himself and he hoped he could work it out without escalating things further. as an impartial observer the way that you said what you did seem kind of rude. this is the post he explained it in. no offense meant. I'm just saying.
"I sent him 5 messages 10 mins after I took the package out of my mailbox. I didnt even hve to take the coins out of the 2x2s to see they were clad proofs, though I did. He still has not responded to me. I only alerted ebay to what has happened, I still have to wait 10 days until I can escalate it to the point where ebay would make a decision. I am clearly hoping he responds back to me personally before 10 days and resolves it. I alerted ebay as a precaution to protect myself as an ebay member and customer of their website, but mainly to show them that I am an unhappy camper at the moment."