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Ebay. Lend A Little Help Please.

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 Posted 02/02/2013  01:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cc99999 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
mindsets, people read and respond to your thread because most of the collectors here care about one another and are friendly people. we don't call each other jerks. people probably also keep looking at the thread for the same reason people slow down to see car wrecks...

the title of the thread is: ebay purchase gone wrong. lend a little help please.

what kind of help do you really think you needed that you had to publicly besmirch a seller's reputation on an online forum? what do you think any of us could have done for that you couldn't have done by yourself?

you start the thread by explaining that you think you got the wrong coins but you aren't sure and then you ask, did I get scammed again? how are we supposed to know whether you got scammed. Why would a seller with great feedback try to swindle you out of a couple of bucks for generic quarter proofs? think about how ridiculous that is.

then SSuperDdave, one of the crown jewels of our community gives you all the information you need- it's a clad quarter and contact the seller to straighten it out. and stuff happens.

this is essentially what I said- after I said the thing about don't bid on my auctions... let me continue

"They're clad, without a doubt. I'm so tired of this. Even if it was a mistake, which I'm forced to believe due to the sellers high feedback rating, it doesn't make me any less angry and upset. Going through ebay resolution center and even arguing with sellers who have not given you what you bought is something I am SO tired of. The last three of my transactions on ebay have ended up in the resolution center. Just crazy how difficult it is to ship something correctly"

here, you are getting emotional. you are at a ten when you should be at a two. your rational mind is telling you that the seller isn't ripping you off- but you are unhinged... you blame this seller for your past experiences. if ebay was so bad- why do you continue?

then you publicly list the seller's id.

then an hour later you accuse the seller of fraud

then KenKat gives you great advice- contact the seller and be professional- he's probably saying that because you appear to be incredibly hostile and immature.

then minutes later you give the seller till the end of the day to get back to you and begin with some hypothetical situation where the seller could have ruined some kid's birthday. I mean, this is really quite ridiculous.

hesgut chimes in with another reasonable explanation. if you actually were looking for advice instead of an outlet to rant you have all you need by this point.

but no, you have to take photos and present the evidence to all of us about how badly you got burned.

then you go on about how sellers wait until the last day to resolve issues just to upset you... I mean, really? what evidence do you have of this? incredible.

edgeman then asks if you contacted him before posting to the forum. another brilliant point. but you'll have none of it- you must publicly go into a rage about a couple of bucks you think this guy scammed you out of...

then you say you sent him 5 messages within 10 minutes of opening the package. see how irrational and emotional you sound? you couldn't think it through and just send one message? you had to send five. who would want you as a customer? seriously.

then you criticize his description where he says, contact me if something goes wrong. you never consider that he wants to keep his 100% feedback rating and wants to handle problems that arise in a quick and professional manner?


and so this is where we arrive where I say, please don't bid on my auctions. I'd like to see a show of hands? who'd want to sell to such a customer? making a couple bucks isn't worth the hassle...

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 Posted 02/02/2013  01:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ghostrider to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This whole unpleasant scenario is a good example of why I don't bother with ebay. When I want to purchase a proof set I usually go to the mint for what I want. If I have to go to a coin shop most of time they do not have what I want, so I do frequent other coin forums looking for what I want.

Maybe it's my good fortune that I haven't run into any of the problems that mindsets seems to attract. Personally by buying from the mint is easier and may cost a few bucks more, but I don't get the hassle of mistakes. Any mistakes are usually my own that I have to live with.

This whole description really does not make me want to buy off of ebay so I don't. I realize that there are many honest and reputable people earning money on this site. Their (ebay's) procedures are in place for a good reason to protect both parties and to try to bring order out of choas (spelling).

I would, like many others, like to know what the outcome of this situation is.
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 Posted 02/02/2013  01:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ghostrider to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with cc99999. you need to give the seller an opportunity to correct the mistake as you see it. I would imagine that a lot of these sellers have other jobs and are doing this as a part time business. If you had sent me a message and demanded an answer by the end of the day you probably would not have gotten your request because I don't check my personal email on a daily basis. I don't see answering your emails on a daily basis as an insult to you.

Please remember the old adage of "You get more flies with honey than with vinegar (or whatever)". You have to maintain a professional and businesslike demeanor. I'm sure that you wouldn't carry on a rant in your professional correspondence then why would you do it in you personal life.

Mistakes happen to all of us and sure we don't like it, but it's a fact of life that if you do enough business you will end up with a few lemons and most people do not like it. We have to conduct ourselves in all things as we want to be treated ourselves. How would you feel if someone called you a "jerk" or something worse. I know it wouldn't get my full cooperation and I'm sure that if you were called names you wouldn't really cooperate to your fullest to someone who had insulted you.

There are a lot of things that I know for a fact that I wouldn't put in writing or utter. Because there are sometimes when I find it hard to eat humble pie for words that I shouldn't have written or uttered. Humble pie does not taste so well.

I have a friend who lost a valuable perk because of something that was said by a person who wasn't even in the issue. So he now knows that it is better to argue politely without bringing outsiders into a situation that is personal.

Best of luck in you efforts, but next time please allow some time to pass before you complain in public.
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 Posted 02/02/2013  01:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mindsets to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I said he probably made a mistake somewhere, and that he was probably a good guy, but that I couldnt help but remember my past ebay transactions. Stupid mistake. The thread can now die. I'm sorry.
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02/02/2013 02:10 am
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 Posted 02/02/2013  02:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hollywood to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have an ebay account and was looking at a five piece commemorative proof set buy it now for $189 on ebay,When all of a sudden it shows up at my house,It has a phone number with it so I call the guy in nj and asked him whats this all about he said he noticed my handle looking at it and just sent it thinking I would buy it when in hand,I dont know how he got my info,He said to send him a check,I said no,So he says ok then can you drive it over to another guys house that just won it in an auction that lives 35 miles away form me,I said no,He said then can you change the address and pay to ship to the other guy,I said no,Keep in mind I'm on the west coast and he's on the east coast quarter backing this.He must have tryed to get more for it from his buy it now offer from me,Than the auction that the other guy just bought it for I sent it back to him he gave me negative feed back saying the cardboard album the coins were in was damaged but it wasn't damaged,So I said he sent it to me damaged imagine the nerve he was just sending people things all over the country hoping someone would buy it.
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 Posted 02/02/2013  03:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BLadd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hollywood, I have never heard anything like that.

That seller has a lot of nerve to try something like that and even more nerve to ask you to deliver it to the real "winner".

How was he able to give you a negative feedback on something you never bid on though?

edited for spelling
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02/02/2013 03:04 am
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 Posted 02/02/2013  03:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mindsets to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hollywood, you can dispute a negative feedback. I dont know how long ago that was, or actual term, but ebay allows people to dispute their feedback if they feel it was unjust or simply a revenge feedback.
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 Posted 02/02/2013  03:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Frazzle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I cant believe youre being so hard on this ebay seller,when you obviously didnt give him time to make it right...How long have you been dealing on ebay and do you sell or just buy there?..Im thinking youre pretty new to this!
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 Posted 02/02/2013  07:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Foxwoods Man to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Hollywood, I have never heard anything like that.


...maybe because it can't happen. I sell a lot on ebay and the only way I can see a BUYER'S info (home address) is after the transaction is completed. I cannot randomly look at ebay handles and see where they live.

...anyway...anyone that just decides to ship something to someone outside of an ebay completed transaction is just giving it away

..."ain't gonna happen"

Edited to add: for the original poster: "5 emails in 10 minutes"? REALLY? That says it all right there...
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02/02/2013 07:15 am
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 Posted 02/02/2013  09:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadToTheBone to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You should not see any clad at all. Are you sure its not some toning. Contact the seller and they should make it right. Good luck.
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 Posted 02/02/2013  09:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadToTheBone to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hollywood if you get something in the mail you did not order, its yours to keep. Evidently you not aware of that. Check with the Post Office.
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 Posted 02/02/2013  10:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I didnt even hve to take the coins out of the 2x2s to see they were clad proofs, though I did.

A bit of advice, don't take a coin out of the holder it arrives in unless you are very sure you are gong to keep it. By taking it out you have now opened yourself up to a charge of having switched the coins. general rule is once the items have been removed from the dealers holder they are considered sold. (Although ebay will often still side with you.)


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.maybe because it can't happen. I sell a lot on ebay and the only way I can see a BUYER'S info (home address) is after the transaction is completed. I cannot randomly look at ebay handles and see where they live.

Depends on when it happened. Years ago before they started hiding bidders identities you could get anyones contact information (address, phone number etc) just by requesting it from ebay. Also if they had done prior business he would have his address.

What I'm curious about is how they left him negative feed back on an item he neither bid on and won, nor bought as a BIN?
Once again it would have had to have been a LONG time ago when you could leave feedback for anybody even if you had never done a transaction with them. And it had to be more than several years ago because it has been awhile since sellers could leave negative feedback.
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 Posted 02/02/2013  1:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Foxwoods Man to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I always find it amazing how bananas someone can get just because someone made a mistake...even before the seller has a chance to correct the error..

Take it to the media! Don't bother waiting for a seller response..he's obviously messing with with you...

...oh, he said he made a mistake and is sending you the correct coins?

Well...whatever....

Totally bogus...PLEASE do not bid on ANY of my auctions...
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 Posted 02/02/2013  3:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hollywood to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I had alot going on at that time over a few days(period),I was trying to win a pcgs70 reverse proof and just stumbled upon that silver commemorative buy it now set it caught my eye,I saved it to my favorites and went back to it from time to time I didnt buy it now because I didn't know enough about the true value/history of it etc,The seller wasn't even one of the sellers for the reverse proof,Trust me this guy was able to get my info and I had never done business with him before,He was moveing the ball from one potential buyer to the next at there shipping expence,Now that I think about it,It reminds me of littleton's Coins-on-Approval program.He some how gets your ebay info sends coins that you were looking at on ebay and if you dont buy them,Then he already has another potential buyer lined up in your area who might,But he tell you that the other guy just won it and to pay to forward it to him or drop it in his mail box when your out cruzing around,Kind of smart imo,He must have been verry successful at it,Because he sounded verry confident about what he was doing with this system of his,Anyway it was kind of a burdon to me,I had 100% + feed back too.Heads up !
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 Posted 02/02/2013  3:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mindsets to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah I get it Foxwoods, thanks.
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