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Ebay Private Auctions Vs Public Auctions

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Poll Question
Hi all

When selling on ebay is it better to list coins as private auctions or public auctions?



Also is there any alternative to ebay for selling coins(the seller fees are just horrendously high!)?

I tried ebid.net without any luck at all so far.



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ebay private auctions are better 0% 0 Votes
ebay public auctions are better 100% 14 Votes

Poll Status: Open
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Last Vote: 09/19/2016 04:03 am
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 Posted 02/04/2013  2:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NathanASE to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I never knew there were private and public auctions..... So I can't vote...
If its a private auction who would see it? Isn't the purpose of selling on ebay to get your item seen by as many people as possible?
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 Posted 02/04/2013  2:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I won't patronize a Private Auction. As far as I'm concerned, the only reasons to hold them are nefarious.
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 Posted 02/04/2013  4:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SeatedNut to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
NathanASE,

Private auctions mask all bidder identity. A normal auction will list a pseudo bidder id and their feedback count, i.e., d**t(267). A private auction lists nothing. You are unable to tell who is bidding and how many bids each bidder has made. It's a fertile ground for shills.

I am with the other Dave. There's no legitimate reason to have one unless you're hiding something. And if you're hiding something, it's never advantageous to the non-shill bidder.
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I had listed a coin and it got no bids at all. 2 Weeks later I relisted it as private and start a few £ more and I got a few bids on top of that in the end though.

And thinking that maybe some people would not want others to know what they buy, because it will be on your bidding history in advanced search and when feedback is left you can view the item and when it is private you can't.



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Private auctions are commonly used by Chinese counterfeiters. For this reason alone I am apprehensive about bidding on items listed that way.
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 Posted 02/05/2013  9:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I didn't vote.
With valuable coins, I like to see each in hand before I commit myself to a bid.
Unless of course,
I know the seller or his reputation is very well known, and is of the highest order.

With lower value coins, I may relax my security requirements somewhat.
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I too will never bid on a private auction. The seller is hiding something, and I doubt it's good for me.
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 Posted 02/06/2013  3:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cointosser77 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
again, when I sell stuff I think I am getting more bids if the auction is set to private, I now listed half private and half public, I wonder what the result will be.

And as a buyer I tend to prefer the private ones too as I don't like others seeing what I bought by going through the advanced search, I am not bidding stoopid money anyhow, only what I would like to pay, if the seller goes and shillbids, their stoopidity as then they will end up with the bid
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To add to that, same as in auction houses, often it is someone winning via the phone or online and there I tend to only bid as much as I think it's worth to me
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Private Auctions are looked down on in general, according to ebay.
It took me a while to get over resenting ebay fees and their ever changing rule tweaks....
Until I realized...
As far as eBay/paypal fees, there are few places (none that I know of) that can compete with (1) easy (2) the exposure you get on ebay and (3) the auction manangment and transaction security.
This forum provides a pretty good place.
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 Posted 03/16/2013  12:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add marz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If you trade on ebay then, at some point, you will have to accept that you will never find the perfect solution.

The private feature is meant to be for sales that buyers prefer to be private in their feedback profile (Hemorrhoid cream etc).

For coins, I think it depends on what you sell and therefore what your buyers prefer? I can understand why some buyers might not want details of there high value coin purchases in the public domain, however a $5 coin probably wouldn't matter as much.

Unfortunately private auctions will put some bidders off, simply because of the assumption of shill bidding.
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 Posted 03/16/2013  1:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add HaroldS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've always thought of porno when I see "private" Didn't relate it to coins.

As far as ebay & PayPal charges: Try driving to a show; paying booth rent, motel, food, etc. and then the customers still want a discount. A mall space isn't much better. Case rent, mall percentage take per sale, again buyers expect a discount usually over $25 item.
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Private auctions seems to be more common in some places than others. I notice a lot of private auctions on ebay Germany for example - but I would be 100% sure of some of the companys doing the selling this way - it's just their way.

I'm not really sure shill bidding works that much - it does if you get that auction rush of blood to the head and get competitive in that last hour but I just log my highest bid and forget about it until the auction is over - if I win I win, if I don't I don't.

Everyone grumbles about the fees, but all in all they are still cheaper than most. Selling on CNG coins for example will cost you $40 per lot - yes per lot!!
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About how much would you be getting out of these coins. What is your ebay fee. Mine are normally pretty cheap.
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I agree with the opinion that private auctions do tend to leave the door open for nefariousness.

But even in "public" ebay auctions now user IDs are semi-anonymous. But at least you can still kind of spot any "funny" business going on based on seeing who is making what bids.
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