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Bedrock of the Community
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My first newp in awhile. Been having some problems with a couple dealers on VCoins so held off buying until today. Couldn't hold back any longer, the urge for new coins is too strong. Diocletian antoninianus. 4.1 g, 21.9 x 22.6 mm. RIC V Pt. 2:306 for Cyzicus. OBV.: Diocletian right, IMP CC VAL DIOCLETIANVS AVG. REV.: Diocletian standing right holding parazonium, receiving Victory from Jupiter standing left with scepter, CONCORDIA MILITVM, A in field, XXI. in exergue.  |
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Moderator
 United States
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Very nice details with still a lot of silvering. I like these late Radiate busts.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Wow, that's a awesome coin..  ..me likes alot..  |
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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Really nice example of a pre-reform "radiate" (Antoninianus), with great silvering.  I prefer the pre-reform type, to the post-reform "brutalistic" style. |
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Pillar of the Community
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Quality coin IGE - It would not have been much better leaving the mint 1700 years ago |
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Bedrock of the Community
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After double checking the catalog on this one, I'm not sure if this is Ric Vii 306 or Ric Vii 306A. Any thoughts on that?
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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I cant help with attributions (Really I should spend some money on books but coins are more appealing)
Nice coin IGE :)
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Bedrock of the Community
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Using Helvetica as a reference I have it as RIC VII 306.
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Pillar of the Community
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I looked the coin up in RIC V-2. It's RIC V-2 306. Many coins are lumped into one RIC number for this particular coin.  The officina marks are "A" to lower case sigma. Could be a dot under the bust portrait. Dots at the end of exergue "XXI" twenty parts bronze to 1 part silver. Dot at the end of Concordia Militum, or not. |
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A nice coin,it's Victory on Globe and it has a dot in exergue XXI.
Ed
Edited by Eddop
02/17/2013 04:18 am
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It seems to me to have a dot before and after XXI making me wonder if we are missing something on the mint ID or if RIC just got tired of listing variations.
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A dot on the left side was also my first impression, but I think it might be the end of the X, if so it's from the Heraclea mint. A similar coin Lanz Auktion 154 nr. 493. But Wildwinds goes for Cyzicus: http://www.wildwinds.com/coins/ric/...C_0306.2.jpgWith 2 dots probably also Heraclea. I agree with Doug there are so many variations, in fact you you have te be specialized in these antoniniani. |
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I am looking in Sear's IV; I have been trying to learn how to use this thing since I got it for X-mas. Anyway...
I found:
(Below is from page 79)
D. IMP C C VAL DIOCLETIANVS AVG
a. Rad. and ciur. bust r.
b. Rad.,dr. and cuir. (or dr. only)bust r.
(Below is from page 94)
Sear # 12635 Billon antoninianus. Db (sometimes with dot below).
Rev. CONCORDIA MILITVM, as 12633, XXI (sometimes followed by dot) in ex., officia mark A-S(= 1-6) in field. RICv,ii,p.253, 306.
All but the type of bust seams to match up. I think? Not sure if this is any help but its my stab at it. Feel free to corect me, but I say its Sear IV #12635:)
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Bedrock of the Community
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Thanks guys, attribution sure gets confusing on some of these. It does appear to have a dot both in front and behind XXI. I don't see a dot under bust. So I can rule out RIC V-2 306A and stay with 306. Is it Cyzicus Mint or Heraclea? That part still confuses me.
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Posted 02/15/2013 6:17 pm
