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1797 Cartwheel Penny With A Difference

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 Posted 03/17/2013  06:56 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add rooneydog to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
As the board is quite quiet, here is one of my more interesting inherited coins.



1797-Cartwheel-Penny-With-A-Difference

1797-Cartwheel-Penny-With-A-Difference

Interestingly Ashton Jackson & Co changed their name about 1851

http://www.wkfinetools.com/huk/Jack...-hist-01.asp
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 Posted 03/17/2013  07:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jamjar to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting, was it done to test the strike of the company dies, or just idle hands being the "devils work"?!
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To be honest I have no idea - all my inherited coins came in a sackcloth which had been kept in garages, cellars for the last 100 years. To me it looks like the penny has been deliberately defaced to use as a test for the dies as you say.

I base that assumption on the fact that Ashton changed their name 1851 and Barlow seems to have exported knifes around 1750 and seems to have changed names to Barlow Bros by 1823.
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I think you are right. Wonder what the connection between the companies is? It would seem to indicate that the original owner was perhaps a knife maker/finisher of some description and perhaps moved jobs several times? I see by your link that Ashton were based in Sheffield, and I am guessing that Barlow were the same (knives) which may add credence to my potential theory of a specialised engineer moving jobs around Sheffield! An interesting piece of industrial history. Perhaps even his CV, "I've worked at these factories" and produces the coin!

http://www.sheffield-made.com/acata..._Making.html

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That's an interesting theory - one I like. Really must research the other names.
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I like Jamjars theory too. It seems very plausible ...Fascinating piece of social history
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Interesting piece and good work on the research.
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That's interesting...I seem to recall cartwheel pennies used as counter weights on scales.
Perhaps the owner used this as a weight and put marks on for identification?
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