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 Posted 05/23/2013  07:09 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Rudi Smits to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
please help me identify this ancient roman times token

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 Posted 05/23/2013  07:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thats... very odd. It appears to be made of lead, so it's not a coin, and the reverse is unlike any Roman coin I've ever seen. The obverse portrait is bearded, which pretty much dates the piece to the period 100-300 AD, but I'm thinking the portraiture is too crude to be able to ID the emperor by it. And unfortunately both the obverse legend and the reverse inscription are too incomplete to read.

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 Posted 05/23/2013  2:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree, Very interesting piece that does appear to be ancient. Did you dig this up? Maybe someone over in the Ancient coin section may have seen one of these before.
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 Posted 05/23/2013  2:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rudi Smits to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Found out more : the original is a huge Commodus medaillon, this is probably a medieval or modern cast -fake-
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 Posted 05/23/2013  2:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FVRIVS RVFVS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Commodus, AE42 Medallion, Rome. ca 191 AD. 58.90 gr. M COMMODVS ANTONINVS PIVS FELIX AVG BRIT, Laureate, draped and cuirassed bust left / VOTIS FELICIBVS, Harbor at Ostia with emperor standing at right, before a tripod, accompanied by a priest; lighthouse at right; in foreground, a sacrificed bull. At left, ship under sail with Serapis seated in stern; four other ships above and below. Gnecchi 174; Cohen 993.

If it is a cast copy I suspect it is still an old one !

What is the diameter and weight ?
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 Posted 05/23/2013  2:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ben to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Mighty cool! Id be happy to own something like that, modern or otherwise! If you're lookign to move it on, PM me!
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 Posted 05/23/2013  2:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I knew someone here would be able to ID it. Great job FR.
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 Posted 05/23/2013  3:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add maridvnvm to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is what an original medallion of the type looks like:-

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 Posted 05/23/2013  4:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Is this yours? Love the reverse design.
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 Posted 05/23/2013  4:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add maridvnvm to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I found the example I illustrated on acsearch which sold for over $11,000.
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 Posted 05/23/2013  4:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ancientnoob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
See without the Roman knowledge you guys have I would have placed the piece later as the portrait reminded me of Julian II.


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 Posted 05/23/2013  4:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FVRIVS RVFVS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My first thought was Julian and it does look 4th century doesn't it. But I thought it must be someone with an extraordinarily high opinion of himself and I came up with Commodus. I double checked the posting and 'Rudi' had the ID already so I merely checked Wildwinds and it is the first listing. Easiest search I ever made. I think the coin looks good. If it were faked they would have made it bigger (still have no specs) but it looks like it is old. Very old. I would not bet against it !
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 Posted 05/24/2013  10:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrsmat71 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
oh wow, I've never seen anything like that before...that's great.
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