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1 Oz. Silver Piedfort Coin - 25th Annivers. Sml

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 Posted 03/09/2014  6:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add yup7676 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
well, if you been waiting to buy this coin, this might be a good price point.

Silvertowne has it for 80 bucks and free shipping in the USA not sure about Canada.

big price drop tho, they were 99 shipped here in the USA, cheapest I saw was 91 in December from them.
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 Posted 03/09/2014  8:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add arianzo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It was 80 slabbed (PCGS or NGC) in Black Friday day.
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 Posted 03/09/2014  10:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add yup7676 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
WOW no kidding @ Arianzo...


well if thats the case then, this coin has more to drop in price then, because the slab should be worth more than the OGP.

Must be Silvertowne wants to dump their remaining stock as the frenzy has dried up.
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 Posted 03/09/2014  11:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add arianzo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply


1-Oz.-Silver-Piedfort-Coin---25th-Annivers.--Sml
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 Posted 03/10/2014  09:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add yup7676 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would say we'll see even more lower prices down the road for this coin
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 Posted 03/10/2014  8:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add arianzo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't care, I LOVE it.
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 Posted 03/11/2014  01:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add yup7676 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I like the coin but I expect lower prices at this rate so I will get it but its gotta get cheaper for me to enjoy it
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 Posted 04/19/2014  5:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add arianzo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very interesting article written by Sean Isaacs. I like the last sentence : "Regardless of commercial popularity in the end, you will never find this bogus "Piedfort" (in my shop). Period."

The full article: http://alliancecoinblog.com/2014/02...-a-piedfort/
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 Posted 04/19/2014  5:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pocket change 50 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would agree with the article. I have the coin, I love the design. I was extremely disappointed in its lack of thickness. To me it's a regular 1 Oz coin with a nice design and nothing special about it.
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 Posted 04/20/2014  3:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add arianzo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah and I liked the fact that a dealer is honest and don't just tell you that all the coins are beautiful.
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 Posted 04/24/2014  8:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Liverpool to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have not been able to get close to one to see it. The images on line look great.

Input from pocket change50 "would agree with the article. I have the coin, I love the design. I was extremely disappointed in its lack of thickness. To me it's a regular 1 Oz coin with a nice design and nothing special about it"

Questions: Is it in the same size airtite as a normal 1 ounce coin? Is there any visible difference between it and other 1 ounce RCM coins? Finally, is it the same size as the earlier piedfort Maple?

Thanks
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 Posted 04/24/2014  9:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silveroid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Questions: Is it in the same size airtite as a normal 1 ounce coin? Is there any visible difference between it and other 1 ounce RCM coins? Finally, is it the same size as the earlier piedfort Maple?


The quick answer:
It is still kind of Piedfort.
While the regular SML has 38mm in diameter, this one has 34mm, so the extra silver went to the thikness. The same dimensions like a 2010 Piedfort.

But, the best example for real Piedfort can be observed in The Royal Mint NCLT, when it exactly the same size as regular coin, but twice as thick (and they sell both variations).

Additional nice examples - Perth Mint high relief coins, they have only 32mm in diameter, which make them 6mm (!) thick.
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 Posted 04/25/2014  07:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Northerncoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I really like the coin and it will stay in my collection regardless of what others say/think , to each his own ....
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 Posted 04/25/2014  2:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TIPIT to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Actually, piedfort and High Relief is often confused... by collectors and mint too.

A Piedfort coin is a thicker coin than usual... not meaning the extra thickness goes into the design.
But having a thick coin when it's displayed into a casing and the capsule enclosed... we don't even see the thickness of the coin but only the reverse side.

So, having a Piedfort and a normal coin side-by-side in a capsule enclosed in a box... there is absolutely no difference but the Piedfort just appears smaller. Is it a 1oz vs a 1/2oz? No one can tell without removing the capsule from the box. This is where the confusion with High Relief comes. Some of the Piedfort coins extra thickness is put into the relief of the coin more than the general thickness and some not.
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 Posted 04/25/2014  3:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silveroid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No, TIPIT

I think, trying to clarify, you put bit more of confusion

When I call the coin "Piedfort", mean, that the edge's thickness is greater, than in the regular coin, and this is not related to the High Relief.

Like I said - The Royal Mint coins - the best example.

But here what happens with the Perth Mint:
they do not call the coins "Piedfort", it appears as "High Relief", but did you see, how they reached the HR?
Unlike the RCM's "Mask" or "Lakes", they minted the coin to be smaller (32mm) and thicker (6mm), and created the surface of the obverse not flat, but curved down, so since the surface is curved, the design elements became to be High Relief. So, also the edge of the coin, the same as HR design has the same thickness.

I will agree, that Mint too introduced some confusion.
That SML is Piedfort, but not thick enough.
And Perth Mint, while creating their HR coins made them thick as Piedfort.

I will today or over the weekend to take detailed pictures of regular 1oz 2012 Koala and the 1oz HR 2012 Koala to show the difference.
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04/25/2014 3:40 pm
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