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1875-H Dime - Real Or Fake?

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 Posted 10/01/2013  4:56 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add justanothercoinaddict to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi everyone,

I've been looking at my low-grade 1875-H ten cent piece which I recently purchased on ebay and I have some concerns as to its authenticity.

Specifically I just noticed that the rim edge is rather high compared to some of my other lower-graded Victorian ten cent pieces. I have not seen any dimes graded Good that have this same characteristic.

The coin is pictured on page 57 of the recent Canadian coin purchases thread. Would anyone care to weigh in with an opinion? I don't own a scale so I can't tell if the weight is within specifications. Nothing else about the piece leaps out as being out of the ordinary.

Thanks in advance to anyone who takes a look for me. The RCMP website relating to Canadian counterfeit coins does not shed any light on the matter.
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 Posted 10/01/2013  5:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pokermandude to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Post some pictures. And definitely invest in a scale if you're buying rare coins.
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 Posted 10/01/2013  5:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Does not have the markers of the Chinese versions. Looks ok to me.
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1875-H-Dime---Real-Or-Fake?

1875-H-Dime---Real-Or-Fake?
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 Posted 10/02/2013  09:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add artdio to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
coin is authentic for sure....I have no doubts
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 Posted 10/03/2013  2:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pokermandude to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Rim does look a little bit strange, but it doesn't appear to be a counterfeit. Knowing the weight would be advisable.

If you are concerned about authenticity, maybe you should stick to certified pieces. As it was an ebay purchase, returning it is always an option even if a seller states no returns. eBay/Paypal ensure that a buyer is pleased with their purchase.
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 Posted 10/03/2013  6:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SHAFTA9a to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks real to me.
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 Posted 10/03/2013  9:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kitkat1858 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks ok to me too...
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 Posted 10/05/2013  01:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add justanothercoinaddict to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
OK, thanks everyone for your assistance.
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 Posted 11/27/2013  6:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add justanothercoinaddict to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi everyone, I wanted to revisit this topic a little more, in that I took a really, really close look at it to see why the rim on this piece is higher than the average Victorian-era ten cents.

Much to my surprise I observed that the reeding on this piece appears to be almost non-existent, and not from being worn away. It is almost as if there was no reeding in the collar in the first place and the rim expanded upward and downward as a result, as if there was extra metal with no place to go. There is a faint hint of some reeding but with an appearance of barely being struck.

I looked at a coin in comparable grade and the reeding stands out clearly, even though it is a worn coin. The denticles appear normal as well.

As a matter of idle speculation I'm wondering if perhaps this coin was used in some sort of a mechanical device of the day that might have applied some post-mint "squeezing" to the coin but I am only guessing, as I have no idea what sort of mechanical devices, such as slot machines, vending machines, etc. might have existed in the 1870's and 1880's when this coin was in circulation.

The only other thing I can think of is "spooning" wherein someone might have tapped away at the rim with a spoon, but I am inclined to discount this due to the uniformity of the raised rim around the entire circumference of the piece. I've seen photos of spooned coins but they have been larger pieces such as quarters or half-dollars.

Anyone else care to contribute their ten cents to the discussion? Thanks a bunch.

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Looks like "spooning" alright.
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Appears to be a real 1875H, but does look like someone was rolling it out, that is why the rims and dentils look odd. Still a keeper until a better one comes along.
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 Posted 11/29/2013  10:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pennysaver to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've known about "spooning" for a while now, but one thing has always puzzled me. Just WHY would anyone do it? Was it a bit of a nervous hobby like popping bubble-wrap is today, or something else?
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