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Medieval European Coinage

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Charles V
1515-1556
Belgium
Holy Roman Emperor
CAROLVS DG ROM IM
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A penny a day keeps the Viking away!

Lincoln, Anglia
Aethelred II The Unready (r. AD 978 - 1016)
Moneyer Dreng
AR Penny (s. AD 997-1003)
20.4mm x 1.30 grams
Obverse: Bare-headed bust left +ÆÐELRÆD REX ANGL
Reverse: Voided long cross with triple-crescent ends and pellet at center +DRENG MOmega;O LINC
Ref: North #774, Coins of England #1151,
Note: VF+ Strike weakness on obverse center. Viking Dangeld. Scandinavian moneyer. ex. Agora, ex. CNG


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now that's a cool medieval coin AN!
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Well ive been absent from this forum for a long time, and unfortunately ive been absent from coin collecting as well due to work. So finally got some time on my hands during holidays.

Ill share with you my latest bought coin. Noting special because of its condition.

Medieval-European-Coinage

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Please dont let this thread (topis) die

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Forgot to mention its Serbian medieval coin but due to its condition its hard to attribute it. Possibly one of the following kings: Uros I (1243-1276), Dragutin (1276-1282), Milutin (1282-1321).
My collection on Numista page:
7500 different coins and counting...
https://en.numista.com/echanges/pro...hp?id=129798
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Since there few price catalogues for these types of coins, or they're so costly that only major dealers can afford to have a full stock, it would be instructive to know how much people paid and when (roughly, if it's not recently) you bought it.

I'll try to do that myself.
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@Pertinax

Yes its true. Much easier to collect 1600 onwards with all the Kraus catalogs.
However, prices wary from place to place. I bet same coin wont worth same in every country.
My collection on Numista page:
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https://en.numista.com/echanges/pro...hp?id=129798
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However, prices wary from place to place. I bet same coin wont worth same in every country.

mvojnovic,
You're quite right but some information on price is better than none at all.

The Krause values for modern French and 19th century British are completely whacky, in my opinion. I just wish I could buy modern French for the values stated in the Krause catalogue, and the values for 19th century British are mostly understated.

I've wondered for some time whether Krause actually look at non-US dealers lists ?
Do they look at dealers lists at all ?
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Are Krause prices for 19th and 20th century Serbian coins accurate. If not, how do they differ from prices in Serbia?
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I have never bothered much with Krause prices.
Sometimes, I will add a compounded inflation factor them to get a bit of an idea.
With the internet, current pricing is often found to be much more accurate elsewhere.

I DO have Krause catalogs covering the last four centuries, but mainly for the photographic record. With patience, they are a very useful tool in the identification of later medieval European coins.

The coins are the hardware that have been left to us by cultures long since gone.

I have seven other specialist books that have at least a major part of their content covering medieval European and British Isles coinages, as well as ten others specializing on European medieval culture in various aspects.
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@Pertinax

Kraus prices are not accurate at all. For me they are just approximate indicator of coins mintage, rarity and value.
But even with that you have to be careful.
For example (its a bit oftopic) there is Hungarian coin in Kraus catalog 50 filler 1948 (km536) mintage 15 mil. (!) and value from 100$ in F and 225 in XF ?! Error in catalog or deliberate wrong estimate ? And that wrong estimate repeats on and on in every Kraus issue.
I myself had bunch of these coins go through my hands in past few years. And thats something that just does not happen with 100$ coins regardless of your location.
If I knew that I could sell them for Kraus prices id be collecting just them and become rich in few years

Ive seen that some collectors have been misled by this Kraus estimate and they started asking big prices on internet auctions but soon after prices started going down, yet still not in resalable estimate for a 15 mil. mintage coin.

Price of a coin is relative thing which is determined with mutual agreement between seller and buyer, and every price you hear is just an estimate, an opinion if you like. Ofcourse I agree that we need to share this info amongs each other especialy for medievel and ancient coins without any (or much) catalog estimate. Dont forget that coin collecting is a business for some. Big business of making money (the one in circulation ). So some prices in catalog (including Kraus) might be deliberately blown up so someone can make money of it.
My collection on Numista page:
7500 different coins and counting...
https://en.numista.com/echanges/pro...hp?id=129798
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