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 Posted 03/02/2014  12:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add yingyang to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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It's amazing how many fake coins and slabs yingyang has found and shared.

That only the tip of the iceberg .
Here are more gold Counterfeits . Most likely some of these are out for sale.

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03/02/2014 12:01 pm
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 Posted 03/02/2014  3:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Singer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is another enlightening thread. My reticulating activator is at it again!

I was at my LCD yesterday searching slabbed Morgans. Occasionally, I will pick up a gold or silver bullion piece so I was looking at those as well. When I find a slabbed coin I'm interested in, I always verify it with NGC or PCGS. I had never seen a China 1/4 oz slabbed before, so it caught my eye. When I looked it up on NGC Verify, I saw "Contact NGC Customer Service" next to the GRADE designation. This was new to me as well and I assumed something was off. I did not return to purchase the coin wanting to wait until I could investigate further.

When I started reading this thread yesterday, I saw the same coin (NGC Cert 3356524-140) referenced with photo by Yingyang. I have a very good relationship with the owner and have no doubt about his honesty. I believe this coin to be the true NGC specimen. What are the odds? I will bring this to his attention on the next day he's open to let him decide for himself. I just find it fascinating.

To be continued...
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@ Singer
Here is another one people will do just about anything .

ebay Counterfeit PCGS AU50 1894-S Morgan dollar, Certification Number 13607063 With Genuine Heritage Pedigree

ebay Listing Number: 120634796054 Listing Date: Nov-06-10

Item Location: Arvada, CO, United States

Sold: Nov-13-10 for $400 via 16 bids. There were 13 bidders.




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ebay Counterfeit PCGS MS63 1889-CC Morgan dollar, Certification Number 12038621 with Genuine Heritage Pedigree on Right. This Counterfeit Sold For $25,000.

Listing number: 280341988758

Listing date: May 04 2009

Sold: May 05 2009 for $25,000 on a $34,500 or Best Offer.

Item location: Analomink, PA, United States

Item description from listing:


"You are bidding on a Gorgeous Very Rare PCGS Key Date 1889 CC Morgan silver dollar in Solid MS-63 Condition. This beauty was never cleaned, has full breast feathers and would make a great investment. PCGS is the most conservative grading company which makes their coins hold the highest value. This is a very tough find in this condition. I got a good deal on this King Carson City so the first respectable offer will win this very rare beauty.

"All items we sell here come with a lifetime authenticity guarantee.

"We also offer a 7 day 100% money back guarantee with no questions asked so please bid with confidence.

"Shipping and insurance is included for free on all our items."

Genuine Heritage Pedigree on Right

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Genuine and Counterfeit ebay PCGS XF40 1916-D Mercury dime, Certification Number 16226761...This Counterfeit Sold For $4,449
Certification number 16226761.This PCGS counterfeit sold on ebay July 17 2010 for $4,449 Listing Number: 270608779654



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ebay Counterfeit PCGS MS67RD 1960 Small Date (Jack Lee) Lincoln Cent, Certification Number 07880484
Listing Date: Jan-06-12 (3 Day Listing)
Item Location: Castro Valley, CA, United States
Sold: Jan-09-12 for $1,075 via 14 bids. There were 3 bidders.

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To view the genuine Heritage pedigree please use the following link.
http://coins.ha.com/c/item.zx?hdnJu...=290&x=0&y=0



ebay Counterfeit PCGS MS67RD 1960-D Small Date, Jack Lee Pedigree, Certification Number 50209461
Listing Date: Dec-21-11 (3 Day Duration)
Item Location: Modesto, CA, United States
Sold: Dec-24-11 for $968.99 via 14 bids. There were 7 bidders.


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To view the genuine Heritage pedigree please use the following link
http://coins.ha.com/c/item.zx?hdnJu...1022&x=0&y=0
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 Posted 03/05/2014  9:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Henry M Smith to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
We have had presentations at the local coin club. Join, ask, and maybe someone will make a presentation, with real examples instead of pictures. One thing for very expensive coins is there is often one or several specific die marks, such as a filled in spot here or a small mark there. There are books that show these, especially for key date coins that are often replaced with less expensive coins without the specific marks. Knowledge is the key, and in coin collecting good books are a must.
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Thanks for sharing
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WOW I WOULD BE FUMING.

ebay Counterfeit 1914-S Gold $10 Indian

Sold: $692.00

Buyer submitted this piece to PCGS for grading who declared item a counterfeit. Feedback amended to state this fact.

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Counterfeit PCGS AU55 1892 Liberty Twenty Dollar Gold, Certification Number 16895618

To view the genuine Heritage pedigree for comparison please use the following link.
Sold at the 2010 March Fort Worth, TX Signature ANA US Coin Auction #1138 for $7,762.50

http://coins.ha.com/common/view_ite...&Lot_No=2671

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Identical 1848 Seated Liberty dollar Sold Raw...Just Weeks Earlier in a Purported PCGS MS63 Slab

Item Location: Analomink, PA, United States
Sold: for $4,161.11


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These fakes always seem to generate bids.

ebay Counterfeit 1875-S US Trade dollar

A very typical example of a counterfeit US Trade dollar often seen on ebay. Mushy details and lack of proper denticles easily out many of these counterfeits.



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ebay Counterfeit 1850 US Seated dollar
Sold: for $304


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Close Up Of FAKE NNC Certified 1914-D Lincoln Cent, Certification Number 2060363

Sold:for $114.50

Note the location of the mintmark and the reverse die crack or forgers mark between the letters "P" and "L" on the word "Pluribus". This coin is identical to the Chinese replica, both obverse and reverse.

*Feedback from the buyer suggests this slab was cracked open and a forgery inserted.*

"I can not see the back coin lettering that good it is cover up.But the slab has been open and reglue you can see the cracks and glue around slab.

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ebay Counterfeit 1909-S VDB Lincoln Cent


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