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Help Identifying Four Ancients

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I'm stumped and could use the help of the forum members. Here are four coin... the first is a thin silver coin just a bit smaller in diameter than a US half dollar. I though Armenian but can't find such an Armenian in my search.

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The second I also thought to be Armenian but again, can't find it. Thin and a bit larger than a quarter in diameter.

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Here are two more that I am drawing a blank on.

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 Posted 03/25/2014  2:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The first one is Sassanian, I believe it's Khruso II. The second one maybe also but I have not seen this type before. Anoob would be the one to say for sure. Number 3 I believe is a drachm of Ariobarzanes I 95-63 BC from the Cappadocian kingdom, an #4 is a Parthian drachm I believe it's Orodes I 80-77 BC.
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 Posted 03/25/2014  2:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dutchgulden to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
3rd one is ariobarzanes
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Definitely not Armenian.

I know, as I am Armenian.

The 2nd one looks like an AR Drachm of Shah Varhran II, but the style is poor, compared to the example from ACSearch below:
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The Aramaic on your example is poor as well, they managed to get what looks like the Arabic "2" (Ù¢) right on the obverse side, but that is not a letter that appears on the original type.

Considering that it was still the early era of the Sasanian Kingdom, the "celator" quality ought to look better.

Compare again, with examples from the excellent "grifterrec".
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Here's a link to a similar example of coin #3, a tetradrachm of Ariobarznes I:

https://www.vcoins.com/en/stores/pr...Default.aspx

The field letters are not quite the same as your coin.
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I agree that the second coins doesn't look right, I suspect it is fake....but don't knw.
my first thought on 4 was orodes as well. the first one has a very nice obverse.
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Thank you all... very helpful.
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All,

Respectfully, #4 is not Orodes I, although the mistake is understandable. All of the "tiara type" Parthian drachms look pretty similar. In fact I've been preparing several posts over at Forum to help dealers and collectors distinguish between such similar-looking Parthians. I hope to upload the diagrams I've been working on in about a week or two.

#4 above is a Gotarzes I, Sellwood type 33, c. 95 - 90 BC. The decorative elements (stags) on the tiara crest, which are easily seen here, are a distinguishing feature for the Gotarzes I drachms. Orodes I drachms don't have them.

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Bob,

Thanks for the update. The little I know about this type can fill a thimble half way. My guess was based on the hook nose. I hope you will post your write up about this type here. I would love to learn more about these coins.
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