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Interesting Ancient Chinese Spade Charm For ID #4

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I have just bought an old collection of Chinese charms, along with a few coins. The collection these were from were put together around 1910, and most have old tags attached. I've one a thread for each of them on the ID forum. I've got a fair idea on most of them, but could do with some help on the exact type for some. Any info would be much appreciated!

Charm 4. 56 x 35 mm

Weight: 14.13 Grams



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Thanks John. Pretty sure this one is a spade money type charm (of which there are several types).

Fingers crossed there's an expert on here somewhere, I know I've had some great info on some Chinese charms on here before
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Items like this are more "replicas" or "copies", rather than charms, since they replicate the inscriptions on original coins. In this case, the original is a 2 jin spade from the Liang (Wei) state, 400-300 BC, listed in Hartill as number 3.48. Scholars still debate about exactly how best to translate the archaic inscriptions on these spades.

Here's a genuine one on zeno.ru to compare it with. Note particularly the corners and edges which are both sharper and less well-defined than on your piece. A "jin" weighed around 14 grams, so a two-jin spade should weigh about 28 grams.
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