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July 2014 Release

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 Posted 06/26/2014  2:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silveroid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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but from what I gathered, it seems like it's the end of the serie anyway... the next ones to come out will be another serie... so I dunno...


Yes, that was I tell - next series will come. 6 coins with the modern characters, right?
I mean - many Disney coins, and if you not really "locked" on the Classic Donald (Mickey, IMO, more iconic) - why not to sell it?

And you right - the "Polar bear" also might to go. The coin is beautiful, but we have not a few nice "Polar Bears", and in addition - probably you'll not continue this serie.....

Commems, righ, sure...
That's why I added, that in the RCM marketing dpt many smart people, that will later decide to issue also "Affordable version of popular design"....as it was with the eagles. And the "Arctic Fox set"...and the "Canada Lynx" set
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 Posted 06/26/2014  5:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add clvlys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
So what do people think about the mammoth coin bundle. I note that the gold coin has a mintage of 300. Good buy?
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 Posted 06/26/2014  5:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add clvlys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry I meant to say that the mintage of the gold mammoth coin is 3000!
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 Posted 06/26/2014  6:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silveroid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sad to see, that people on the other forum call to all coins from RCM release "garbage".
Partially it true, in the 90% it is "something on the metal round", but 10% - items, commemorate the significant events of our history.

And together with this people chase after coins for the speculation.

"Buy two, sell one"
what they will have - jewelry store items:
6-D palau/nuiue "coins", ancient gods medals, disney rounds.....same garbage as 90% of RCM items.
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06/26/2014 6:23 pm
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 Posted 06/26/2014  7:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NuMoosematist to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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CC-Ottawa said:

Just my opinion (so worth what you've paid for it) but I would be shocked if the 10oz doesn't sell out fast and appreciate in the secondary market. It's a unique coin, well designed and low mintage.


Well CC, I really don't like the design at all. Without the mint's booklet explanation, it just looks like some folks standing on a ship deck, passing a bluff. There is absolutely no indication of time, place or significance.

Take a look at it again and you may not be so keen on this meaningless paperweight.

Am I being to harsh? I don't think so. A coin commemorating Canada's entry into World War I should be immediately recognizable, n'est pas?
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06/26/2014 7:49 pm
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 Posted 06/26/2014  7:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NuMoosematist to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Dominic said:

The majestic moose kinda attracts me since I got the first one in the series, but once again, money is an issue!...


I like the Moose too (I wonder why?), although I think the artist could have come up with a more imaginative design. This guy reminds me too much of Bullwinkle to be majestic...

I also agree with Dominic that it's too pricey.
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 Posted 06/26/2014  8:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CC-Ottawa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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A coin commemorating Canada's entry into World War I should be immediately recognizable


Thanks. I don't need a second look .

But help me out. What image would be immediately recognizable to you as commemorating the start of WW1?

BTW, the mint has sold exactly none of these coins in the past 7.5 hours since I first posted about it. Nailed it. lol
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06/26/2014 8:03 pm
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 Posted 06/26/2014  8:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Northerncoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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What image would be immediately recognizable to you as commemorating the start of WW1?


I can think of a few things...like "Another of Humanity's Acts of Stupidity" Insert image...hmmm should be lots of images of that around.
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06/26/2014 8:09 pm
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 Posted 06/27/2014  10:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NuMoosematist to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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But help me out. What image would be immediately recognizable to you as commemorating the start of WW1?


Well CC, I'm not a coin designer. However, I think that Canada's commitment to participate in a useless and needless conflict, which resulted in an incredible loss of life, and the courageous sacrifices of so many deserves to be commemorated on a 72.5 mm sized mega-coin which reflects that reality.

There are many designs which an artist could depict Canada's entry into the "Great War", rather than showing our soldiers enjoying a cruise.
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06/27/2014 10:33 am
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 Posted 06/27/2014  11:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silveroid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would put this on the coin:

http://data2.archives.ca/ap/c/c029568k-v8.jpg

Looks great, but has some issues:
isn't a fresh design, and probably need to pay for the copyrights
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 Posted 06/27/2014  11:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add commems to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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There are many designs which an artist could depict Canada's entry into the "Great War", rather than showing our soldiers enjoying a cruise.

I'm sorry, but I find this comment very disrespectful to those who served. The soldiers depicted are not "enjoying a cruise" they are on a troop ship that is taking them from their home to a very uncertain future. They may never see their family and country again.

No one here today can know what was going through their minds as they went off to war, but I doubt many were considering themselves "lucky" to be on a pleasure cruise.

In terms of the design itself, I think the coin is a very solid next chapter in the story that has been told so far in 2014. The first coin depicted soldiers going off to train for the war, on the second a soldier is seen boarding a ship after his training was completed. This new coin shows the soldiers on the next leg of their journey.

I think they work well together as a series - I just wish the design was available in a more reasonably priced version.


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 Posted 06/27/2014  11:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ace_ftw to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Commens, I do not think that he meant any disrespect to the men who fought in the war, however I have to agree with most people here, The image to me was very confusing, and was not identifiable to being a war setting. The 3 men in the hull of the little boat looked more like men out in a fishing boat pulling up a net or something. The men are not in sailors uniforms, they are wearing turbins. OK HOLD THE PHONE... I just went back to look back at the coin. These are women? AND ITS Not a BOAT?

(I mean absolutely no disrespect, I received the email presale from my RCM rep, and you get no info on the coins other than the image)

I get that there were women working in factories ala Rosie the Riveter, but this image requires way too much description to tell me the story. Compare this to the D-Day landing coin, no comparison.

If they would have named the coin something like Women Join the Fight or something as simple as that would have been better.
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 Posted 06/27/2014  12:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add commems to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@ace_ftw: You're talking about two different coins.

The silver dollar features three women working on the interior of a plane during WW II.

The $100 silver coin is the one that depicts the WW I soldiers leaving for Europe in the ship - and they are depicted in uniform. BTW, I don't see your description ("3 men in the hull of a little boat") when I look at the $100 coin.


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 Posted 06/27/2014  12:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ace_ftw to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Commens, you are correct, sorry I thought you were discussing the silver dollar, not the $100 coin. I have no issues with the $100 coin. however being from the West coast, the image of the cliff to me looks more like coast of England. I originally thought this coin was depicting the sailors leaving England.

Again, I think the mint needs to adjust their presale emails to include full descriptions for the coins as this series seems to have coins that need the description to sell the coins.
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 Posted 06/27/2014  12:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Electrum to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't doubt that the entire WWI story will be duly depicted on many coins to come by RCM.
I like the latest Gaspe Peninsula image but like others-prohibitive price.
The whole journey will be depicted and it ought to be highlighted promoted advertised publicly commemorated in a variety of ways.
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