Gold Kennedy Half....requirement For A Complete Set?

Because a coin is a unit of money meant to be spent, most often in modern times made of metal. Therefore some art piece that looks exactly like a coin, but made of something else and not meant to be used as a coin, is in fact, not a coin. doesn't mater if the Mint or FRB recognizes the face value as being acceptable and legal, it is not something distributed for use as money.

Someone with a concept drawing of a car in their car collection does not make the drawing a car. the silver proofs made at West Point, this gold half, and the first wives are not money to many people, they are just high priced collectors items.

SO the question as you had 2 answers yourself, would be what does the person making a "set" view as part of the set? Do those counter-stamped halves with Lincoln on them belong in the set because someone else made it to embellish the coin? Does it only count if made by the US Mint? (Then Henning nickels aren't to belong in a set of nickels.)

The fact that there are "sets" in folders and albums and such that are not all the exact same coins listed and places for them is the very reason the SYSTEM is being questioned as to WHO gets to decide what a set is. The simple answer, the one making the set gets to choose for themselves. The time of baseball card nonsense is expired like the gum that came in them. You don't have to catch all the Pokemon.

The ONLY person that would be required to have this gold half as part of their set is a museum like the Smithsonian that needs an example of each for historical reference purposes, and then that isn't even really needed as a pictorial would work jsut as well since you can never touch the things in a museum.

these "special items" are made and said to be required because the person selling them wants that psychological dependency on the buyer to have to buy them. Yes the US Mint uses this gimmick as wel as every other snake-oil salesman ever did.

I collect COINS. Metal standards of value issued with the intent that they would circulate as money. The proofs, clad or silver, and this special gold abomination are not coins. At best they are NCLT (Non-Circulating Legal Tender)

I don't consider it part of the set, unless the Kennedy half stops with 2014. I will probably get one anyway.

It all depends on your collection goals and objectives.

If you were collecting a complete "Date" set, any coin dated 2014 is all you need (your choice of which one of each date).

If you were collecting a complete "Business Strike" set, then no because the gold coin is a Proof coin.

If you were collecting a complete "Silver" set, then no because the gold coin is the wrong metal.

If you were collecting a complete "Proof" set, then yes because it is the same design and denomination of the other coins in the series.

If you were collecting a complete "Business Strike and Proof" set, then yes because it is the same design and denomination of the other coins in the series.[/left]

So YOU decide that people must collect ALL State Quarters even if they only want a "year set" of one coin per year? I will be sure to tell my mother who has been collecting one coin per year for the past 60 years she is doing it wrong and she is not allowed to want what SHE wants for her collection.

Proofs and other things like that are NOT coins, as they are not meant to be money. They are just that, special things made to resemble coins and can be legally spent for their face value in the country of issuance.




you forgot to read the word you wrote in there so I made it bold for you. the collector decides this, not some firm or business that wants to sell more junk to people or belittle them if they do not buy their junk. The Lincoln folder I just commented on I think is junk for its choice of what to put in it, but it is still a neat little idea though implemented wrong, and it does make a complete "set". It has the VBD, wheat (copper and steel [and brass?]), memorial, bicentennial, and shield. So you are saying if that is the ONLY thing someone wants in their set, then it is not complete? I say you are wrong as you have NO say in what makes someone else's set. Neither does anyone else. a set belongs to the collector and only need what the collector decides is part of that set. gold replicas like this 50th anniversary is not a coin, coin-related memorabilia, yes, but not a coin and does not belong in a coin set, unless that is where the person chooses to put it.




So you think someone has to have bought the old metal content 2009 cents in order to have a set of Lincoln cents? or that someone collecting dollar coins must have those 1st lady gold tokens or else they don't have a set of dollar coins? again, people get to choose what makes a set, not a small group of people for everyone, but the individual collector and as has been shown on here, many people do NOT consider this a coin. Numismatics deals with coins, not replicas, as the replica has no real history, but is just a token to help explain the history of a real coin, which the 2014 clad Kennedy IS a real coin!

You cannot go buy a pair of baby shoes when you are 50, and have them bronzed and claim that you have "your" baby shoes bronzed. you actually have to have the real things, and this is NOT a coin, though it is a metal disc with a face value and likeness to a coin. It is a US Mint authorized counterfeit coin.

The US Mint recognizes this to be a coin: http://www.usmint.gov/faqs/circulat...ulating_coin

the half is "Cupro-Nickel, 8.33% Ni (Balance Cu)"

so this gold replica is not a coin any more than those plastic cash drawers are coins. Just the US Mint doesn't have to put COPY on their replicas, so it can get confusing. Likewise if the US Mint stamped a spoon handle with the dies for a dime, it will not make that spoon a dime, wrong metal content, no reeds, etc. They jsut have the authority and privilege to make these novelty items and nobody else can. (except maybe those giant frisbee sized coins seen around here somewhere, and I am not sure how that gets away with it?)




Remember, only the Smithsonian or some other Museum actually cares about that if THAT is what THEY chose to do. Nobody has the authority to tell someone what MUST go in their set. again, it is up to the individual collector to choose what goes in their set, how to store them, if they want to clean them, etc. Not another living sole on this planet has any right to tell another collector what they can and cannot do with their coins except for Congress/etc and that is just about what you can do with the natural resources found within the coin, not even what you must collect.

So just don't claim it a "requirement" because it isn't it is just YOUR choice to think so, and everyone else's choice to disagree with you.

~1970 Kennedy. MY folder does not hav a whole for it it has an almost hole that is still attached that says "ONLY IN MINT SETS" so there is no hole to fill and no question for me to answer on it, it has already been answered when I chose the folder. Likewise the 1973 Ike's I recently got and have no idea what to do with and the proof Kennedy's I have gotten recently and have no place for them. I wish I could just sell them and get rid of them so I don't have them sitting around in the way (probably keep the Ikes because, well.. IKES!) The only non-coin I want in my collection is the 2000 ASE I bought so I felt like I had some booty (pirate that is) as I will likely never find a reale and wanted to know what a real coin of old would feel like. (feels good!)

If it wasn't for the fact, that all of our tables have coins, stamps, or notes on them; I would flip one right now, but don't want to mess anyone at CCF efforts of sorting. Just the audacity of someone trying to tell someone else what they are REQUIRED to have in their collection, just...

I think we should all just call up Dansco and ask them what they think we should collect. Lol! What a question.

The coins are 50 years apart! I would never consider commemorative Canadian silver dollars to be the same as circulating silver dollars, Voyageur design or not. If we all collected the same exact thing this world would be so boring.

Did the real Kennedy also have a five o'clock shadow? :)

Well I respectfully disagree. One example is the Teddy Chronicles set. That is numismatic only other than the dollar. The other are medals. Same for the 911 medal. True not made for circulation but still it is a coin. A fifty cent piece to be exact. One reason I think they did not make it a medal is they would not have sold near as many. Tell you what, lets see how the Red Book lists it....my money says it will be in the half dollar section.