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I couldn't resist the color on this one. :) Verdict?   |
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Pillar of the Community
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Hope you did not pay a lot for it.
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:( Why's that? That's what I was thinking, I don't see anything to be concerned about. Problem free and circulated IMHO, but besides that I have no idea. These things are nearly impossible to grade unless you really know the series. |
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VF35...
Notice the wear on the points of the star as they head towards the shield outline.
On the reverse, notice several of the orbs are worn, but the bars are not.
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A weak strike on this one. Grades around EF.
Edited by zxcccxz
08/25/2014 08:31 am
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No way that's EF. F-12 by PCGS standards is "Some deeply recessed areas with detail, all lettering sharp" which the lettering is obviously lacking. I'd say a solid VG-10, Design worn with slight detail, slightly clearer. I'd be willing to go VG-11 based on the east half of the coin looking good. The west half tanks overall grade & there appears to be some rim damage. http://www.pcgs.com/grades.htmlEdited by CopperCastle
08/25/2014 03:11 am
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@CopperCastle: This is definitely a tough series to grade but I've owned dozens of these, some MS-64, Some aG-03. I had nearly a complete MS Set before I sold it to fund a Seated Liberty dime Set. Here's my reasoning; this series, just like the double dimes got off to a very rocky start, it was never fully backed, just another bad idea that passed congress due pushback from people who had deep pockets. Therefore, the series had many issues, one of them being strike quality. The 1862 was the last date that wasn't struck is extemely low quantities, the 1863-1873, all struck in the hundreds to low thousands. If you look closely, you'll find that the rims on the star are fairly clear and bold, not what you'd see on an F, there is strike weakness, yes, but american TPG's grade very technically; was EF a bit high? Perhaps. Although to be conservative I can't see this coin grading less tham VF-30 at any of the top tier TPG's. Edited by zxcccxz
08/25/2014 08:30 am
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Your reasoning is sound, but there are other components to consider. There's a prominent ding in the NE rim of the reverse. Even if it is a weak strike (which could account for the lettering, I admit) the border of the shield is worn to the extent of not being complete in the NE & NW quadrants. Not to mention there's been some kind of post strike impact on the SE horizontal section of the star. Perhaps it would grade above VG, but I can't see this under any circumstance taking an EF designation.  Edited by CopperCastle
08/25/2014 03:55 am
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I am in agreement with zxcccxz on this one. While I may not put it in low EF, I do believe it is in the VF spectrum. The boarder and lettering weakness is a definitely a strike issue. It looks to me that the leaves are grease filled and that possible could account for the problem with the shield. I do not think the shield is wear since the lines are very defined and then suddenly there is weakness rather than a pattern of wear. Quote:
I couldn't resist the color on this one. :) Verdict? I like it!  |
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