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 Posted 09/12/2014  8:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stev18 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is basically why I don't value beautiful toning. I almost consider it damage. I'd take a low ms frosty scratched coin that I can see is untampered over a toned coin or shiny white coin any day
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 Posted 09/13/2014  09:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jimbucks to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
In a reply to the OP. Taco Bell napkins are known to have high amounts of sulfur content (like their food). Sulfur induces toning.
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I almost consider it damage.


It is damage; it is oxidation damage. But it produces some beautiful coins. Everyone has different tastes. Some prefer natural toning others frosty white coins. I like both. Keep in mind though that many of those no patina/toning coins were likely dipped at some point.

I like coins with just a hint of natural toning; for me the best of both worlds.
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 Posted 09/14/2014  06:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GERMANICVS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you for the additional comments. Paper pulp containing sulphur
is unusual I think, but if it does contain sulphur, it would surely explain the effect on silver.
Now I need to find a safe place to store all the napkins.
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Germanicus wood is commonly cooked using alkali and reduced sulfur in the form of sodium sulfide. After cooking the pulp is washed to remove the spent chemicals but some sulfur remains, especially in brown papers such as used to make bags, corrugated boxes, paper towels and napkins. If paper has the distinctive rotten eggs "kraft" smell it contains sulfur.
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Here is an SLQ I've exposed to Taco Bell napkins. It's been wrapped in napkins and sitting in my attic here in SW FL. Temperature closely approximates Haites. Coin had no toning when this was initiated and was an in the white specimen. I originally purchased it for the clashed "E" near Liberty's right knee (your left). It is still distinguishable but is somewhat hidden by the toning. I wish I had photo'd this in stages as it has been rather interesting to watch it progress through toning of golden to what you see now.

Taco-Bell-Napkins?
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Nice clasher. How far are you going to let the toning progress?
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Good question. Not sure. This experiment is a little over a year now. I've also got some raw common date Morgans MS63'ish, and raw Mint State ASE's up there. The one I'm really interested to see what happens with is a net AU55 lightly cleaned Morgan 1891-O VAM 3A1. At this point it is hitting the golden stage. I pocketed this one for a while before putting it in the cooker.
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