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Pillar of the Community
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where are you coming from sell here ? sell somewhere else? we need an explanation ?
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Forum Kid
Canada
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sorry, what I meant is just counterfeits will be sold anywhere in the world, the cause, money... a canadian coin can be sold in china made in china sold in germany or made in germany. It is extremely sad that this happens!
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Pillar of the Community
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 completely, its just nothing short of a shame but the people doing it don't care and will continue to do it to make money. Imagine a 13 or 14 year old kid starting coin collecting for the first time and he's buying his first ever coin, he gets it and finds out a week later that its fake, The kid then says "Wow, you cant even start a simple coin collection in this world without having somebody rip you off. |
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Pillar of the Community
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Ok, enough with the drama. This is your first, last, and only warning. Start acting like an adult or your done here. It's getting old. CCF..Thank you so much..!! These aggressive statements were certainly getting to me. I have no idea why this was taking place and I'm sure that I was not alone here. This is supposed to be a "fun place" to view and share our knowledge and never a battle ground. We're all trying to learn and enjoy this hobby and are certainly "in the dark" when it comes to all of these fakes out there.. Sharing this knowledge is essential to all of us.. Edited by DEVLEC
12/06/2014 11:15 am
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Like I said before on this topic, the RCM owns all of coins copyrights, one phone call from their crack legal team to ebay will prevent probably 95% of the fakes, but yet they leave it to us collectors to fend. |
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Forum Kid
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yes excellent point! to you all. I find that all of the aggressors and drama queens are always the same people!!  |
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Valued Member
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In response to 47P7s request for us to figure out why the coins he posted in the other thread were fake, I posted the following:
"Comparing my 1885 50 Cent piece to the counterfeit 1885 shown above I see that the counterfeit has different size letters and spacing on NEWFOUNDLAND on the obverse. The numbers on the reverse of the counterfeit appear slightly thicker to me than on my authentic coin. I also notice that my coin has a wide rim around it and then the dentils, while the counterfeit piece seems to have a very small to no rim and dentils immediately. That may just be something to do with cropping the photo? Or is it really like that. Anyways, that is what my attention was drawn to.
I'm still learning, but if there is some obvious reason that these are fake that has not been mentioned I would love to know so I know what to look for in the future."
Since I received no response there, perhaps someone could chime in here. I collect NFLD coins so I would like to know what I need to be looking for to avoid fakes. Does anyone know the "obvious" marker of why the 50 cent pieces posted by 47P7 are fake? I agree they are fake, but I just want to be sure I am seeing everything I should be.
Also, is there some website that discusses fake Newfoundland coinage or another resource that provides examples or things to look for?
Thanks in advance. I appreciate those who happily share information with the rest of us so we can learn.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I have probably made some "aggressive statements" recently, and since the "drama" occurred following my post on this thread, I can't help but think that I instigated it in the other thread. For that, I apologize. I enjoy the guess the grade, guess the variety, and the "which of these is a counterfeit" type threads as much as the next person. I just wish that posts in that vein were clearly presented as such, instead of "what grade is this" when it's really about counterfeits. I did not intend to insult 47P7 in any way.
On the 1882H the 2 is wrong. The H is on the obverse and should be on the reverse - is that the "clear marker"? Yes, I guess counterfeiters can be that dumb, but I don't really know these coins at all. There was a 1948 posted elsewhere that still had "IND IMP" on the obverse, so obvious and yet it didn't jump out at me at all.
Otherwise between the 1882 and the 1885 the only thing I can see is no definite line between the nose and the forehead, but I'm not sure if that's just the pictures. There's one on ha.com where that line is also not very distinct, so if there's something else obvious on both coins I would sure appreciate knowing what it is.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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duck: I think the biggest marker to me is where the bridge of the nose meets the forehead there seems to be a gap or blank space... I'm sure there's pleny of other ones... with respect to lettering or details but that's what jumps out for me...
As for my response with the rest of this thread... Perhaps the language was aggressive.. perhaps it was passive aggressive by some users.... but I honestly think we need to all take a step back...
I think 47P7's methodology of teaching us the markers is ... go try and find it ourselves and report what we think and why... a method of generating dialog.. not just regurgitating information...
Now there are some people on here that have a tonne of knowledge.. then most like me that are still only just learning and looking at any way to soak up the knowledge like a sponge...
I think the onus must be on us as a community to help the collectors .... in any role that is within our capibility...
Now lets stop arguing and bickering and lets work together on this problem!
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