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2014 Kennedy Half Differences: Picture Guide.

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 Posted 12/08/2014  1:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add smokeriderdon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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show why I like the P-Proof.


Yes, that clearly shows what the coin was meant to be. And also how I would like to see proofs look. I like the grainier look of the frosting. It seems to show detail better. But then, it could be because the coin has lost its detail over the years.


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I didn't realize that there were differences between circulation strike and mint set and 50th anniversary set P and D clad coins. Interesting.


That sir, is precisely why I did this post. I am glad it helped.
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 Posted 12/11/2014  03:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add redlock to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice post. Thanks for the great pictures!
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It was pointed out to me that I managed to post the P mint set coin twice, instead of the P then D.

This is the D.

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I think the most obvious difference between the regular strikes and the anniversary strikes is that the latter actually look like JFK. The regular strikes look like a JFK mask lying on a table.

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smokeriderdon: I'm not sure I agree that any MS68 and higher would be from a mint set. I got a 2014D out of one of my rolls from the mint that is stunning. I'm not into sending to TPG's, but this one is deep mirrored surface with nary a bag mark of any kind. If it's not MS68, it's 67*... I'll try to post a pic later, but my setup doesn't work well for photographing coins.
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I said, the MAJORITY of the coins 68 or higher come from mint sets, not ALL. I am quite sure there gems in the bags and rolls to be found. The odds state there HAS to be. If the one you have is that nice, certainly, send it in to ANACS.
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Since the Uncirculated Mint Set JFK's are minted on a lower-speed press using greater striking force, I wonder if their relief is ever-so-slightly higher, enough to where laser measurements could differentiate them from the "circulation-finish" JFK's made on standard high-speed presses.

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DNA one would think so. But as my laser measuring device is out for repairs...
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Excellent post sir , excellent +1
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For my 2-pc. Clad Uncirculated 50th Anniv. JFK Sets, I made some flips with P&D pairs of circulation-grade JFK's, to highlight the dramatic differences between the two.
The fields on the Set's high-relief JFK's are more reflective, almost Prooflike.
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It's awfully hard to tell the real difference unless you break them out and photograph them using identical lighting. The set coins are being photographed through the plastic of the capsule and the film holding it to the card. If anything, what shows above UNDERSTATES the quality. Yes lots of bag marks and no MS70s yet, but it really is struck up with higher relief and the hair looks lifelike.
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I would disagree. The differences are so drastic that I can tell any of the original design coins from current ones in a glance from a distance. That awful gash in the neck of the current design alone makes it easy.
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 Posted 12/20/2014  12:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DNA to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Agreed that better photos would do the coins more justice, but even my snapshots show the significant differences in the profiles and field reflectivity (ie. the circulation finish have a straight 180° arc cartwheel effect, while the high-relief coins are more of a "pool" of reflectivity).
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I can see the difference between them in DNA's photos from across the room.
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So now I have a question, I see that there are 3 types of the 2014 Silver Kennedy Enhanced coins: MS (ES),PL, and DMPL or DPL (NGC). Can anyone explain to me why a PCGS slabbed DMPL MS70 is selling for $2200.00 - $3000.00, but an NGC slabbed DPL MS70 sells for about $500.00 - $1000.00? Aren't they basically the same graded examples of the same coin? The last I checked, the PCGS population on this one was just over 20 coins, and NGC was several hundred. Thanks for clearing up this confusion for me.
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