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Pillar of the Community
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It's a bit gray as to whether PL could be considered an error for an EU coin. However, consider this. Is it less of an error than a coin struck with a cracked die? In both cases, the die is not able to produce coins inside specifications.
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Pillar of the Community
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I don't get why it would be an "error" for a Eu coin? Why wouldn't the same be true for the MS Morgans and 5 ounce ATB's? |
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When I compare my EU Kennedy half with my EU Silver Eagle, I can differentiate 3 separate silver finishes on the Silver Eagle, but only 2 on my Kennedy half. |
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Quote: I don't get why it would be an "error" for a Eu coin? Why wouldn't the same be true for the MS Morgans and 5 ounce ATB's? I am with you on this. No reason to call this an error. |
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Which brings me back to my original question, what would have made this coin sell on ebay for $4750.00 with an early pop of 25 (PCGS), with the possibility of it steadily increasing, I am guessing? |
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I have given up trying to reason WHY someone would pay what they pay for these outliers....I would love to be the seller but no way am I EVER going to be the buyer...  As you said the POP number is not anywhere near done with this one...once the the 12/3-4 glut is graded and POP's are published it will make 25 a distant memory |
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What I find interesting about this EU variety, is the unusual 45 degree grain pattern on the obverse of the Kennedy profile which I've never seen before on any other coin that I can remember.
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Has anyone else noticed this, and if so, what other coins do they appear on?
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Quote:PL, DMPL, DPL have been grading terms for quite some time and are commonly seem on uncirculated MS Morgan silver dollars and, in more recent times, the MS 5 ounce ATB silver bullion pucks. There are not "errors" but coins of quality. Except PL, DMPL, and DPL should NOT be possible on the Enhanced Unc Kennedy half dollar. The field of a properly finished coin should NOT have a prooflike or mirror type finish to it. After consideration I would have o agree that I was probably wrong about them being worn dies. The mirror fields are too complete and too even to be from the loss of the normal field finish from wear. That brings up the possibility of an improperly finished die with the fields polished and put into use before they were given the "brushed" or whatever you want to call it finish that they were supposed to have. |
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Maybe the San Francisco Mint received some proof planchets with the EU ones during the first striking of this coin, perhaps? I never thought of that being a possibility. I believe the fields on this coin was suppose to be a matte finish.
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Valued Member
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Or perhaps the fields on the dies were too shallow and the supposed matte finish was smoothed out under intense pressure when striking the coin.
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Quote:Except PL, DMPL, and DPL should NOT be possible on the Enhanced Unc Kennedy half dollar. The field of a properly finished coin should NOT have a prooflike or mirror type finish to it. I don't get the difference between the field of a MS Morgan/ATB puck and an EU Kennedy...the "enhancement" had zip to do with that. Description of the EU process: Quote:
In addition to bearing a restored portrait of Kennedy, it features a heavier laser frosting treatment in areas of the effigy, lettering, and border.
The lettering and border received a heavy laser frosting treatment. Other elements of the eagle received a standard (moderate) laser frosting treatment to enhance details.
The stars received a laser polish technique to accentuate them against the field. All treatments are exceptional when looking at them through a loupe. Some are subtle to the naked eye because of the coin's size. |
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Thanks Foxworth Man, I appreciate the information!
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Valued Member
United States
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EU coins also have frosted fields. Unless this years EU process is different from last years. Here's an excerpt from the 2013 Mint description of the 2013 EU ASE: Quote:
The fields on both sides of the coin have a new light frosted finish. Granted, they're two different coins, but the fields of the EU ASE look like the fields of the EU Kennedy half, and after looking closely at the fields of the EU and UNC Kennedys, it's easy to see the difference in the fields. I wouldn't classify a mirrored field in the EU coin as an error though. |
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Another interesting fact I read on the US Mint Web site, each set of dies are only used to strike approximately 1200 planchets before they are replaced with new ones, specifically the Reverse Proof coins, not sure about the other 3. Seems like a waste of dies to me though. I would kind of think the dies would be serviced and repolished maybe, then reused, but not destroyed.
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