Let's Just See All Your 1859 Large Cents

....I guess that I have to change this description now..?









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Yes, it is NOT a DP#1. Like Rob says, it's a DP#5 or Zoell R2b and in the 2011 Charlton.

My own personal opinion on many of the 1859's that appear to have something underpunched between the tail of the 9 and the upper loop is that it is a chip or corrosion on the very thin piece of "field" metal left on the gap. Just think about how thin a piece of the working die is left between the recessed loop and tail. I think that it chipped quite regularly. That is my opinion only and not necessarily a fact.

You've all corrected me before on this one..Thanks again.. and thanks again MG..on the noticeable RP'd 5..

Yes, it's a #4,.. but back in the day they were still calling it a #1 and I'm guessing that the #'s 1..2,..3,..4,..5 etc had not yet been separated out in the books..

Some day I'll also try to get crisp sharp pics of the whole surface ..

What's nice in my pics is the upper part of the inner loop of the 9 shows another loop of the under 9. ''and this 2nd 9 also shows quite boldly at the bottom of the tail in the 9. Both 9's were badly misaligned..

This poor pic also does not show the large die crack from the rim that branches out between leaf #'s 6 and 7.
The bulge in and around the 9 doesn't help either.

The die was probably on it's last legs when this cent was struck..

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For okiecorner ..

...and all to better view this DP 9. Finally took a few sharper pics with better details..

The die cracks are now much sharper and many are easily seen around the lower reverse legend,..

..and the DP "G" in GRATIA is well seen along with many other key markers. I hope this helps with the DP #4 ID..

This die, DP 9 #4 (reverse E25a in my on-line catalog), suffered a major collapse (manifested as a bulge) in the area near the end of the date. So, as the collapse developed it became harder and harder to see the repunching in the lower part of the 9. The repunching pattern in the 5 and the die crack pattern then become the critical markers for identifying the die. It's much more often encountered in its collapsed form than the earlier form pictured and priced in the standard catalogs. Of course, that brings up the contentious question of how much an example in a late state is worth compared to the catalog price for the early state....

i believe this to be dp9 #3 haxby #PC59-732 am I correct? thanks

Very nice find