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Let's Just See All Your 1859 Large Cents

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 Posted 02/16/2015  10:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JDRMCB to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yup, the obvious shifting on the stem of the R in GRATIA is the main PUP for the DP9 #3.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but to date, obverse die #73 has only been found paired with reverse die P12 and the scarcer reverse die P12a(DP9 #3)?
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 Posted 02/17/2015  06:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There is also, normally, a nice die crack from the denticle through the tip of leaf 1 and then to the bead. Easy to see when there is gunk in the letters and digits.
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 Posted 02/17/2015  12:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add myskchem to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
gidjit, that PC59-52 is awesome
i have the beatup grade and can barely make out the inside loop of the 9 triple punch
where can I get one?
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 Posted 02/17/2015  1:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nybird to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
JDRMCB your correct. Thus far Haxby Obverse 73 has only been discovered paired with two reverses. Haxby Reverses P12 and P12a. ed
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i noticed this one has a repunched 9, I'mtrying to figure out if its the one from 2011 charlton pg 293 what do you think? and if ya know the haxby # I would love to hear it
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 Posted 02/18/2015  04:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is not the one on p 293. Since every 1859 working die was made from an 1858 matrix with the 8 ground off and then the 9 handpunched into each individual working die (well over 200 of them), EVERY 1859 is technically a repunched 9. Since it takes 2-4 whacks with the hammer and punch, with annealing and hardening days or weeks apart between whacks, the 9's inbedded into each working die were far from perfect. In my variety collection, I have to have at least 15 different types of coins that have visibly offset punches on the knob of the tail. For using the 2011 Charlton variety section as any kind of guide, your coin in hand has got to be EXACTLY the same as the one in the book and one of the first things to look at is the vine break at 7.
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i believe this one to be haxby pc59-441 but with what I think is a cracked planchet! the crack can be seen through both sides of the coin,,, I dont think I have had one like this, is it worth a premium?

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 Posted 03/13/2015  05:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You mean a premium for the crack or for the die? I think neither.
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i meant the crack that goes through the coin. from the bottom of the n in cent past the 5 and out to the bottom of the coin and the same crack on the obvers from center of coin through middle a in Canada
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 Posted 04/04/2015  11:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gidjit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
here is another rp9 #3 in just a bit better shape than my other one

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 Posted 04/05/2015  07:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The #3 is one of my favorites of all the '59's
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Here is a pic of my 1859 one cent penny, but notice it is really thin...Could this be from wear or could it be thin from the mint?



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 Posted 04/06/2015  9:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
aardspeed: The 1859's were 1/3 thinner than the Brit half penny. Starting with the next mintage in 1876, The Royal Mint made them the same size as the Brit halfpenny and everyone was happy. The 1859's were made so that 100 made a pound and each coin was also exactly 1 inch in diameter, but the populace didn't like them because they were so light and thin. Your coin is also a bit worn so it will be even thinner than when minted, but the main reason was that it was 1/3 thinner to start with than the rest of the large cent dates by design.
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1859 dp9 #5 I finally have one. it may be a little beat up but it will have to do until I find that ms67 one

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i have this one I cant seem to locate on the haxby site, can anyone figure it out? thanks

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