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Photographing/Selling Older ANACS, Nci, Usgcs Graded Coins?

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I'm just learning about the coins I inherited from my father and I'm planning to sell some of them on ebay. Some of the coins were graded by ANACS, NCI, and USGCS in the late '80s and aren't in slabs like the PCGS and NGC coins. They are just in flips or in acrylic holders inside a large sleeve, attached to a card with photos and grade. Can I remove the coins (carefully) to photograph them for the purpose of selling the coins? I could probably take good photos through the acrylic cases, but sometimes they are wrapped in mylar within a flip and can't clearly be seen...can I remove those to take pics?

A related question: Suppose I want to send some of these coins to PCGS now for grading. Would this be considered a Crossover? These coins were previously graded, but are they really "encapsulated"? Or are these coins considered "raw"? Should I just remove the coins and place them in new mylar flips to submit to PCGS as "raw" coins?
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It is preferable for you to remove the coin before shooting it; just be careful about keeping it from scraping the sides of the holder and you'll be fine. If your plan is to submit, send them in raw without the original containers because they'll be considered raw anyway.

The question is whether they'll do you better in slabs or where they are currently. My leaning is anything common in a slab, below the pricey grades for the issue, is probably more attractive/collectible if presented in that original packaging.
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Thanks for the feedback. Since I'm a real novice I'm not sure exactly what you mean by:

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My leaning is anything common in a slab, below the pricey grades for the issue, is probably more attractive/collectible if presented in that original packaging.
Some of the previously graded coins are valued under $200...I don't plan on sending those for regrading before selling. Some of the others are in the $500 range and some others in the $1000+ range. I'm thinking all of those more valuable ones should be regraded by PCGS or NGC. So those more valuable coins should be removed (CAREFULLY) and sent "raw" in clean mylar flips for regrading?
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I personally think the older small white ANACS graded coins are usually properly graded.
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I personally think the older small white ANACS graded coins are usually properly graded.
Maybe I'm dealing with even older grading options? Here are some quick examples of what they look like:

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In those cases, the coins look easy to remove for photos and in some cases to resubmit as raw for regrading and to get slabbed.
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You know, unless there's something really spectacular in there, these original photograded containers have sufficient collectible cachet that they could bring hefty premiums on their own.
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Definitely saleable as is...
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You know, unless there's something really spectacular in there, these original photograded containers have sufficient collectible cachet that they could bring hefty premiums on their own.
Oh thanks, I didn't realize that. Does that apply equally to ANACS, NCI, and USGCS? Is there some value amount that you would say should definitely be regraded/slabbed? I could of course submit to PCGS/NGC now and still include the original photograded container along with the new slab when I sell, if that would be worth something to buyers.

There's also the issue of whether specific coins might grade higher now, to an extent that it would be worthwhile to regrade. My plan is to post good pics on the forum of specific coins to get some feedback.
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ANACS and NCI show up fairly regularly on ebay. So you can search for sold listings andngetna inkling of the premium. Some of it it hoping for upgrades and some of it it people such as myself collecting the history.

Can't report on the other one, I don't know about them. Let me look into it, maybe was can BST and save you the ebay fees.
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Don't take any out of the holders.

By chance, do you have a local coin club? Your collection needs to be viewed and opinions given by several. Request to join and advise NONE of the coins are for sale, just need honest opinions.

Or...cart several to multiple coin dealers, and ask what their buy/sell prices are and if any would be worth sending in for grading.

The 82 CC Morgan, if a MS65 is approximately a $575 coin. If this coin would earn a MS65 PL (Proof Like) designation, the value increases to $670. If, this coin would grade MS65 DPML, the value jumps to $1910.

The photograde certificate from USCGS really indicates this to be a nice coin. With the photo provided, the luster has superb cartwheel.

BUT, would need to see better pictures of that Morgan.
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