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Thanks AgCoinAu...it's probably my best hit in 4 years of collecting.
I have a trick for the 1906 25c small crowns. Draw or visualize a vertical line down from the left edge of the crown above the 25.
For large crowns, the "2" is entirely to the right of that line. For the small crowns, the line cuts through the hook of the 2, and a good part of the 2 is to the left of the line.
I told this trick to one of the ICG graders to whom I sent a VG8 1906 small crown, and he exclaimed on the phone "OMG now I see it so clearly! And I spent the last 30 minutes struggling with it!"
It also helped that the seller placed the coin between two other large crowns...
:)
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An easier trick is to compare the length of the bar under the date...
"Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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Pillar of the Community
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You're absolutely right...those bars are of different length as well
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Very nice score! I think it would go PCGS F15 for sure, perhaps Vf20 on a good day
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Canada
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To those 2 people who wrote the seller of the coins, telling him there was a $10,000 or $15,000 coin in the lot, that is very very low class behaviour.
If I had made a "mistake" like that (i.e. selling something valuable without realizing it), I certainly wouldn't want to know.
Very, very disappointing.
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some one told the seller what the coin was?
Feel free to call me Will.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Two people wrote to the seller...he wrote me back today, quite upset about it...
I just dont see how some sick human being can derive pleasure from doing that to a seller who wasn't as well versed in Canadian varieties...
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You have the coin in hand (and were wise enough to post your thread after getting the coin in hand) so to me, this sounds nothing more than sour grapes by those who perhaps are kicking themselves for a missed opportunity (including the seller, and possibly the underbidder). You were not the only bidder who knew what was there, judging by the hammer price. Many of us witnessed Belzberg winning the AU-55 small crown in a ebay.de auction, back when Sid participated on CCRS... if you know your quarry well, it makes the hunt easier. My advice: move on and ignore all the post-auction fall-out, maybe next time, post the photograph and not the ebay link... hindsight helps nobody in this case. "Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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CV. The best way is to never tell anyone about a major home run , it will always come back on you. Nice hit on this tough variety.
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Agreed...everyone hunts for undervalued or undergraded coins...i love stories like the Belzberg 1906 AU55 small crown, or stories of people's finds like a 10c 1858 8/5, 1872 50c or 25c A/V, 1859 9/6...etc...the "treasure hunt" is a very enjoyable aspect of the hobby...
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Funny thing is you didn't receive a message from the seller immediately after the sale.... saying that the auction went "too high" ... and the seller was going to reimburse you some money as these coins were only worth $500!
So I completely agree with SPP in this case... the auction was public.. anyone could've bid on these coins. This also wasn't one of the first times this seller has sold coins... so I kind of think it's their fault for NOT knowing what they had to sell in the first place.
In defense of the people that may have sent the seller a message I believe that they may have been acting out of good consciousness.. but such an act can ONLY be made PRIOR to the end of a business transaction.
So once again.. congrats on the find!!
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United States
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I agree with SPP. There is nothing wrong with this sale. Roger beat me to the Belzberg story. Let's not forget the seller here started this at $45. If he didn't know what he had when he listed the coins, don't you think he might have suspected something when it hit several hundred dollars a half hour before the end of the sale? Plenty of time to pull the listing if he was not sure what was going on. I suspect he made several hundred dollars on this listing, but is now upset his lack of knowledge cost him a few thousand more. Move along. This happens every day on E-bay.
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I agree as well, I am sorry for the seller but it's his own fault. Also I don't see the point of telling him AFTER it ended. It won't bring anything good to anyone.
The seller couldn't withdraw the item I think, don't you have a time limit to do so? Or is it only when you bid but want to retract?
Also if the coins would have sold for let,s say 3 000$ then he might have been suspicious. But the price it went for is just overpriced. Nothing out of this world.
As someone mentionned the buyer probably made money out of it. Not as much as he probably should but still...
Great catch!
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United States
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I have even had sellers claim the lot was "lost" after the auction closed on a variety coin I cherry picked from them. Not much you can do about it as a buyer. My point is, after the seller realized the lot was selling for multiples of what he expected, he had ways of not completing the sale. Apparently this seller never wondered why he got much more than he was expecting.
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