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A Very Interesting Group Of Vicky And Edward Quarters

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 Posted 02/25/2015  11:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BoroLeColon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
He didn't ask himself in the first place maybe because he had no idea what he was selling lol...

bosox I just saw your webpage, I got to tell you I love your site, it helped me to sort out the 1891 big time and helped me made good catch :) Thanks a lot! Great work there.

Now to CV, I was looking at the pictures of the lot and I can't help myself to think that the 1871H is obv. 1. I am no expert in the 25 cents but would it be possible?
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 Posted 02/26/2015  02:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add canadian-varieties to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry BoroLecolon...I'm not good with obverse types...but I've listed the 1871H, with better photos

http://www.ebay.com/itm/27178323372....m1555.l2649

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 Posted 02/26/2015  02:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BoroLeColon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for that.
I thought that the previous owner of that coin took slightly blurry pictures but it turns out that the coin is "fading" lol. Losing details :/
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 Posted 02/26/2015  07:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jdmern to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Oh man, if I sold a big time variety that I had missed, I would not want to know... This is the definition of 'ignorance is bliss', seller was probably thrilled to have made much more than they were expecting, then to find out... More than anything, that was a nasty move to do to the seller...

Can someone recount the Belzberg large crown story, I am not familiar with it, sounds like a fantastic story?

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 Posted 02/26/2015  08:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BoroLeColon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
+1 for the story and the nasty move.
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 Posted 02/26/2015  09:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add papeldog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
To the 2 people who wrote the seller for the buyer he did his home work and had the knowledge to find this variety it wasn't luck it was knowledge congrats. The seller maybe should by some coin books and gain the knowledge that's required to know the varieties the books are available to all.
That's what cherry picking is all about finding the treasures and using the knowledge you have to do so great find.

with others here no class to the 2 who called the seller and
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 Posted 02/26/2015  11:25 am  Show Profile   Check Pacificoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Pacificoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sort of goes back to what I have been stating for the last year or two. You can never have enough numismatic knowledge. Cherry picking is part of that knowledge. Learn , learn, learn or burn , burn, burn.
To the two Numidiots who wrote the seller, just plain jealousy and they probably do not have 10 numismatic publications between them.
Having been around for a long time I can tell stories of cherry picking (((ssh! should never tell!!))) and can also tell of being cherry picked ! It is all part of the game. When I found out I got cherry picked , I just bought another book on that subject so I could get even! Over the last forty years I think I am way ahead in the cherry pick game.
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 Posted 02/26/2015  12:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add papeldog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes Pacificoins, you are right I think we all have made some good cherry picks and also been cherry picked in the past but like you mention you can never have enough knowledge so buy the books and gain the knowledge.

This leads me to some other area's in live and how knowledge helps I quit hunting with a gun back in the early 90's after I shoot the only big game that I had never bagged and I wanted one so bad. Now I hunt with a camera the big game I'm talking about is an Elk very hard to hunt and bag. I hunted them for 4-5 years and never got one but saw many just not a good clean shot I chased them all over the mountains and could never get the shot I wanted, so I bought a book on there habitat and how they lived in the wild after reading and gaining the knowledge of how they lived and where they lived the next year I got my Elk maybe it was luck on my part or maybe it was the knowledge that I gained from the book I don't know but I gave my rifle away after that. The same thing with river fishing steelhead trout I never caught one until I learned how they lived from buying a book on them, but I still enjoy river fishing and never gave my rods away but I mostly catch and re release them unless they are injured to bad.

So knowledge rules in my books
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 Posted 02/26/2015  12:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add yingyang to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A few years back I purchased 16 2007 wedding sets for $89.95 each from Canadian coin and currency.

I knew they were worth more than $89.95

I should have called Steven Bromberg and told him not to sell me them for $90 bucks they are worth about $1000.00 each.

Its like the old saying goes I was at the right place at the right time.

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 Posted 02/27/2015  12:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JHax to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think it's safe to say that, based on its rarity, the 1906 small crown is probably from a single reverse die. And (gulp) that hapless ebay seller can now brag to his customers that he handled a really rare Canadian variety! After all, how many people have the chance to sell such a neat item?
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I think the seller would be "Over The Moon" with $800 for what he would have considered "Junk Silver" that he was probably expecting $50 for tops.
Kudos to the buyer because this could easily have been a set up with a fake coin added to this bunch .
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There was definitely risk involved, which is probably why the lot didn't sell for more
... I was half expecting there to be a 1906 large crown instead...
then it would have been a big hassle to fight with ebay for return/refund...
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 Posted 02/28/2015  4:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bosox to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I guess here is where I would respectfully disagree. If a person attempts a major cherry pick (in this case a small crown) and, when the coin arrives, it turns out he got it wrong (a large crown arrives), then I think a return is out of line. If you intend on keeping the windfall brought about by your knowledge of varieties, you should be prepared to eat the loss when you get it wrong. Just my opinion.

I will edit this to say, if the seller switched coins from the one in the picture (a bait and switch), then I think a return would be okay. If the coin in the picture arrives, and turns out to be a large crown, then I do not think a return is in order.
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 Posted 02/28/2015  4:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trout1105 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
I guess here is where I would respectfully disagree. If a person attempts a major cherry pick (in this case a small crown) and, when the coin arrives, it turns out he got it wrong (a large crown arrives), then I think a return is out of line. If you intend on keeping the windfall brought about by your knowledge of varieties, you should be prepared to eat the loss when you get it wrong. Just my opinion.




You can't have it both ways, The seller didn't say it was a small crown That was your call and you bid accordingly.
If you made a bad call on this then there is NO way you could go for a Item not as described case
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 Posted 02/28/2015  5:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BoroLeColon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with the two last messages. As it happened to me. I didn't get what I was half hoping half saw. But clearly it was the same coins. I just did not win it for the price I should have won it. But it was my mistake.
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